[HOT] HOT Digest, Vol 54, Issue 55
Kathy Wright
latte_oz at yahoo.com.au
Sat Aug 30 00:57:39 UTC 2014
I love this idea. As a relatively new mapper, but someone who has worked with GIS I would like more feedback on my mapping and validating efforts.
Kathy
Volunteer 'latte_oz' for HOT mapping
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> 1. Re: Validating & TM2 - a send message button? (Sander Deryckere)
> 2. Re: Validating & TM2 - a send message button? (Blake Girardot)
> 3. Re: Validating & TM2 - a send message button? (Claire Halleux)
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> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 21:01:58 +0200
> From: Sander Deryckere <sanderd17 at gmail.com>
> To: Clifford Snow <clifford at snowandsnow.us>
> Cc: hot <hot at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [HOT] Validating & TM2 - a send message button?
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> I don't really like getting notified for every validated square. But I
> would like some interface where I can query certain stuff.
>
> * Query the tiles I worked on
> * Query the tiles I commented on
> * Query the tiles I set to "Done"
> * Query the tiles I (in)validated
>
> And then also some filters I could apply, like I could only see the
> validated tiles I marked as "Done" to see those comments. I could see how
> many of my tiles were (in)validated, to see how good I'm doing, ...
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> 2014-08-29 19:58 GMT+02:00 Clifford Snow <clifford at snowandsnow.us>:
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>> I think getting a message about editing errors is a valid quality process.
>> I suppose that you could allow the editor to opt out, or even opt in to
>> messages as well as confirmation that the edit was validated.
>>
>> Clifford
>>> On Aug 29, 2014 9:47 AM, "Nick Allen" <nick.allen.54 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I was recently involved in teaching a large group of new mappers, and
>>> close to the end of the session I repeated to them how to find the squares
>>> they have mapped, click on them, and see the comments that the validator
>>> had left. At the end of the session I was approached by representatives of
>>> both the British Red Cross & Medecins Sans Frontier who each commented that
>>> it seemed like a long process, and couldn't it be automated so that a
>>> message is automatically sent to the mapper concerned. At the time, I
>>> replied that the many hundreds of very good mappers would not want a
>>> pestering email every time one of their hundreds of squares was validated.
>>>
>>> However, on further reflection I am having second thoughts, but don't
>>> know if;
>>>
>>> a/. there is something already in the pipeline, &
>>> b/. what other HOTties have in the way of ideas about this.
>>>
>>> I should explain that I see validation as both a quality control feature,
>>> and a training aid. Rather than invalidate, I will frequently validate a
>>> square if it only involves work I can complete in a few minutes, and I will
>>> leave a message in the square something like 'Click on this link to see
>>> screenshots showing the before & after:
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8mtspy7pfu4o0ve/AADSV7Z-ZGG0kCWatPqUdnLYa?dl=0
>>> I've joined the paths together & added the round huts that were present -
>>> screenshot shows one of them & they are tagged building=hut. etc......'
>>> In this case it would obviously be good if there was an option within the
>>> Tasking manager that allowed me to send this as a message to the mapper
>>> concerned rather than leave it to chance as to whether it is ever seen. If
>>> this feature was implemented I would suggest that it was a tick box that
>>> the validator would have to select with the text similar to 'Tick this box
>>> if you require your comments to be sent as part of a message to the mapper
>>> concerned'.
>>>
>>> The ticking of the box & then confirming with the validate button would
>>> cause a message (email or OSM messaging system) with a preformed text such
>>> as
>>> _________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> Title=HOT Validators feedback, square @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
>>>
>>> Hi & thanks for mapping for the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team,
>>>
>>> A validator has recently validated square @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ which you
>>> marked as complete on @@date@@ & has asked that the following comments
>>> are passed on to you;
>>>
>>> *Click on this link to see screenshots showing the before & after: **https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8mtspy7pfu4o0ve/AADSV7Z-ZGG0kCWatPqUdnLYa?dl=0
>>> <https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8mtspy7pfu4o0ve/AADSV7Z-ZGG0kCWatPqUdnLYa?dl=0>**
>>> I've joined the paths together & added the round huts that were present -
>>> screenshot shows one of them & they are tagged building=hut. etc......*
>>>
>>> Please take these comments in the positive way they were intended. The
>>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team would like to see you map many more squares
>>> & the comments are only intended to keep the mapping standards high.
>>>
>>> Keep up the good work, and thanks again for mapping for HOT.
>>>
>>> This is an automated message.
>>> _________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> There was a genuine interest from members of BRC & MSF when asking me
>>> about this, and there was an offer to help with the coding as well.
>>> Personally something like this would save me a lot of time - I'm currently
>>> trying to validate the work of about 60 new mappers and anything which
>>> speeds up the process would really help.
>>>
>>> I'd welcome some discussion on this.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>> Volunteer 'Tallguy' for
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team
>>>
>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Tallguy
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> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 15:10:41 -0400
> From: Blake Girardot <bgirardot at gmail.com>
> To: "HOT at openstreetmap.org" <hot at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [HOT] Validating & TM2 - a send message button?
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> I just want to make sure I understand this:
>
> We are just talking about getting an email for squares that we
> personally have marked as "completed" when it gets validated or
> invalidated, not for every square that gets validated.
>
> Or, as an alternative:
>
> Every square that we have personally marked as completed AND that we
> have checked a box for that says something like: Notify me of comments
> on Validation/Invalidation.
>
>
> I was also further talking about being able to optionally "subscribe" to
> comments on any task square, by checking a box.
>
> Cheers,
> Blake
>
>
>> On 8/29/2014 12:47 PM, Nick Allen wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was recently involved in teaching a large group of new mappers, and
>> close to the end of the session I repeated to them how to find the
>> squares they have mapped, click on them, and see the comments that the
>> validator had left. At the end of the session I was approached by
>> representatives of both the British Red Cross & Medecins Sans Frontier
>> who each commented that it seemed like a long process, and couldn't it
>> be automated so that a message is automatically sent to the mapper
>> concerned. At the time, I replied that the many hundreds of very good
>> mappers would not want a pestering email every time one of their
>> hundreds of squares was validated.
>>
>> However, on further reflection I am having second thoughts, but don't
>> know if;
>>
>> a/. there is something already in the pipeline, &
>> b/. what other HOTties have in the way of ideas about this.
>>
>> I should explain that I see validation as both a quality control
>> feature, and a training aid. Rather than invalidate, I will frequently
>> validate a square if it only involves work I can complete in a few
>> minutes, and I will leave a message in the square something like 'Click
>> on this link to see screenshots showing the before & after:
>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8mtspy7pfu4o0ve/AADSV7Z-ZGG0kCWatPqUdnLYa?dl=0
>> I've joined the paths together & added the round huts that were present
>> - screenshot shows one of them & they are tagged building=hut.
>> etc......' In this case it would obviously be good if there was an
>> option within the Tasking manager that allowed me to send this as a
>> message to the mapper concerned rather than leave it to chance as to
>> whether it is ever seen. If this feature was implemented I would suggest
>> that it was a tick box that the validator would have to select with the
>> text similar to 'Tick this box if you require your comments to be sent
>> as part of a message to the mapper concerned'.
>>
>> The ticking of the box & then confirming with the validate button would
>> cause a message (email or OSM messaging system) with a preformed text
>> such as
>> _________________________________________________________
>>
>> Title=HOT Validators feedback, square @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
>>
>> Hi & thanks for mapping for the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team,
>>
>> A validator has recently validated square @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ which you
>> marked as complete on @@date@@ & has asked that the following comments
>> are passed on to you;
>>
>> /Click on this link to see screenshots showing the before & after:
>> //https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8mtspy7pfu4o0ve/AADSV7Z-ZGG0kCWatPqUdnLYa?dl=0//
>> I've joined the paths together & added the round huts that were present
>> - screenshot shows one of them & they are tagged building=hut. etc....../
>>
>> Please take these comments in the positive way they were intended. The
>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team would like to see you map many more
>> squares & the comments are only intended to keep the mapping standards high.
>>
>> Keep up the good work, and thanks again for mapping for HOT.
>>
>> This is an automated message.
>> _________________________________________________________
>>
>> There was a genuine interest from members of BRC & MSF when asking me
>> about this, and there was an offer to help with the coding as well.
>> Personally something like this would save me a lot of time - I'm
>> currently trying to validate the work of about 60 new mappers and
>> anything which speeds up the process would really help.
>>
>> I'd welcome some discussion on this.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> Volunteer 'Tallguy' for
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Tallguy
>>
>> Treasurer, website & Bonus Ball admin for
>> http://www.6thswanleyscouts.org.uk/ (treasurer at 6thswanleyscouts.org.uk
>> <mailto:treasurer at 6thswanleyscouts.org.uk>)
>>
>>
>>
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> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 01:18:33 +0200
> From: Claire Halleux <claire.halleux at hotosm.org>
> To: Blake Girardot <bgirardot at gmail.com>
> Cc: "HOT at openstreetmap.org" <hot at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [HOT] Validating & TM2 - a send message button?
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> +1 for the "Notify me of comments" checkbox suggestion.
>
>
>> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Blake Girardot <bgirardot at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I just want to make sure I understand this:
>>
>> We are just talking about getting an email for squares that we personally
>> have marked as "completed" when it gets validated or invalidated, not for
>> every square that gets validated.
>>
>> Or, as an alternative:
>>
>> Every square that we have personally marked as completed AND that we have
>> checked a box for that says something like: Notify me of comments on
>> Validation/Invalidation.
>>
>>
>> I was also further talking about being able to optionally "subscribe" to
>> comments on any task square, by checking a box.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Blake
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 8/29/2014 12:47 PM, Nick Allen wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I was recently involved in teaching a large group of new mappers, and
>>> close to the end of the session I repeated to them how to find the
>>> squares they have mapped, click on them, and see the comments that the
>>> validator had left. At the end of the session I was approached by
>>> representatives of both the British Red Cross & Medecins Sans Frontier
>>> who each commented that it seemed like a long process, and couldn't it
>>> be automated so that a message is automatically sent to the mapper
>>> concerned. At the time, I replied that the many hundreds of very good
>>> mappers would not want a pestering email every time one of their
>>> hundreds of squares was validated.
>>>
>>> However, on further reflection I am having second thoughts, but don't
>>> know if;
>>>
>>> a/. there is something already in the pipeline, &
>>> b/. what other HOTties have in the way of ideas about this.
>>>
>>> I should explain that I see validation as both a quality control
>>> feature, and a training aid. Rather than invalidate, I will frequently
>>> validate a square if it only involves work I can complete in a few
>>> minutes, and I will leave a message in the square something like 'Click
>>> on this link to see screenshots showing the before & after:
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8mtspy7pfu4o0ve/AADSV7Z-ZGG0kCWatPqUdnLYa?dl=0
>>> I've joined the paths together & added the round huts that were present
>>> - screenshot shows one of them & they are tagged building=hut.
>>> etc......' In this case it would obviously be good if there was an
>>> option within the Tasking manager that allowed me to send this as a
>>> message to the mapper concerned rather than leave it to chance as to
>>> whether it is ever seen. If this feature was implemented I would suggest
>>> that it was a tick box that the validator would have to select with the
>>> text similar to 'Tick this box if you require your comments to be sent
>>> as part of a message to the mapper concerned'.
>>>
>>> The ticking of the box & then confirming with the validate button would
>>> cause a message (email or OSM messaging system) with a preformed text
>>> such as
>>> _________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> Title=HOT Validators feedback, square @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
>>>
>>> Hi & thanks for mapping for the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team,
>>>
>>> A validator has recently validated square @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ which you
>>> marked as complete on @@date@@ & has asked that the following comments
>>> are passed on to you;
>>>
>>> /Click on this link to see screenshots showing the before & after:
>>> //https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8mtspy7pfu4o0ve/AADSV7Z-
>>> ZGG0kCWatPqUdnLYa?dl=0//
>>>
>>> I've joined the paths together & added the round huts that were present
>>> - screenshot shows one of them & they are tagged building=hut. etc....../
>>>
>>>
>>> Please take these comments in the positive way they were intended. The
>>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team would like to see you map many more
>>> squares & the comments are only intended to keep the mapping standards
>>> high.
>>>
>>> Keep up the good work, and thanks again for mapping for HOT.
>>>
>>> This is an automated message.
>>> _________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> There was a genuine interest from members of BRC & MSF when asking me
>>> about this, and there was an offer to help with the coding as well.
>>> Personally something like this would save me a lot of time - I'm
>>> currently trying to validate the work of about 60 new mappers and
>>> anything which speeds up the process would really help.
>>>
>>> I'd welcome some discussion on this.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>> Volunteer 'Tallguy' for
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team
>>>
>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Tallguy
>>>
>>> Treasurer, website & Bonus Ball admin for
>>> http://www.6thswanleyscouts.org.uk/ (treasurer at 6thswanleyscouts.org.uk
>>> <mailto:treasurer at 6thswanleyscouts.org.uk>)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Claire Halleux
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