[HOT] Validating & TM2 - providing feedback to new mappers

[Dan S]

Hi Severin,

Sounds like a nice approach. However the first two steps are unneeded
- we can detect new users when they mark squares as done, not via
changeset hashtags. In my experience newcomers often forget to tag
changesets, so your approach would miss many of them - yet we already
know their username within the Tasking Manager.

Also I'm not keen on the idea of marking users as "bad for such and
such". It would be better simply to have neutral state plus "good for
such and such".

Best
Dan


2014-08-31 8:07 GMT+01:00 Severin Menard <severin.menard at gmail.com>:
> Hi all,
>
> Thinking aloud, would not be possible (actually asking tech people) to have
> a tool allwing the following:
> - detecting changesets with hotosm hashtags and picking up the username
> - comparing the username to a list of HOTOSM contributors and stating if it
> is new or not and already validated for a certain numbers of quality items
> (like drawing buildings correctly, drawing roads correctly, tagging roads
> correctly, etc.)
> - when contributors have not been validated yet, a task is sent to a
> validation team
> - one team member picks up the task, check, validate the work of the
> contributor and contact her/him if some mistakes. A form would be great,
> with checkboxes for typical errors, and if making a typical one, the
> contributor would receive in the answer link to the Learning point (there
> are already quite a few in LearnOSM) dedicated to this error
> - once done the hotosm contributor quality status for this contributor would
> be: good for such and such aspects, bad for such and such ones and the
> latter would then be tasked in the future for validators as soon as this
> contributor would submit a new changeset
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Severin
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 1:52 AM, Nick Allen <nick.allen.54 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Pierre,
>>
>> A help channel or some form social help channel would be good, but in
>> order to ask for help, the mapper needs to realise they are doing something
>> wrong, or don't know how to do something.
>>
>> The new mappers in this thread are consistently asking for someone to
>> check their work, and provide feedback so they know what to do to improve.
>> The validation process is good for this as well as quality control - but it
>> would be nice if we made it easier for the new mapper to receive the
>> comments, and if needed for the validator to pass them.
>>
>> I don't know if it is easily achievable, but perhaps a system where the
>> validators comments are more easily available to the mapper, unless they opt
>> to not receive them. I know that MSF & BRC were keen to offer help, and I
>> know that the few mappers that have replied to this thread are asking for
>> this feedback.
>>
>> It would be good if more mappers replied, especially if they are new, so
>> we have an idea as to whether it is worth investigating further.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Nick (Tallguy)
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