[HOT] Validating - Take a Task at Random

Andrew Buck andrew.r.buck at gmail.com
Wed Nov 12 15:28:11 UTC 2014

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Yeah, this definitely is an issue, 'take a random task' should not
offer validation squares.

As for criteria on who can validate, it might be worth setting up
something like you need to have completed at least 5 squares and had
at least one validated after you were the last mapper to lock the
square (meaning when you marked it complete it really was complete,
not just finished by someone else).

- -AndrewBuck

On 11/12/2014 01:55 AM, Ralf Stephan wrote:
> IMHO, the task manager shouldn't automatically assign validation
> tasks. The potential problems outweigh any benefits from that
> feature.
> Regards,
> On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 19:33 Nick Allen <nick.allen.54 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> For info of all who are consciously validating squares (& a few
>> who may not realise they have been validating).
>> I've been contacted concerning one of the very successful recent 
>> mapathons. A little research after the event has shown that
>> several squares of at least one project have been marked as
>> validated by mappers extremely new to the system - unfortunately
>> the squares are not up to standard and more work is taking place
>> to correct this.
>> We think that the likely scenario is - When all squares of a
>> project are either complete or locked by another mapper, Tasking
>> Manager will allocate you a square to validate - if you are
>> extremely new to the system you probably will not realise what
>> has happened and will look round the square & then add a brief
>> comment before marking the square as done. Having spoken at
>> several mapathons, and listened to other mappers giving guidance
>> I know that; a/. you can't say everything before letting someone
>> start, & b/. even if you did they probably wouldn't remember it
>> all anyway.
>> I've added to the entry on the tasking manager in learnOSM - link
>> is 
>> http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/tasking-manager/#contribute-tab
>> & I ask that validators just bear this in mind - have a quick
>> look at the usernames of others who have validated within the
>> project you are working on, and be prepared to reopen squares
>> that may have already been validated if there are problems. I'm
>> not talking about 'they missed one building in the middle of
>> 200', I'm talking about buildings should have been traced, there
>> were hundreds, but none were traced!
>> I can see how easy a mistake it is to make, and I think it's
>> something we should be aware of and try to negate in the future.
>> Meanwhile I suggest that if you find one, send a message to the
>> mapper concerned including the above link.
>> To my knowledge there has never been a decision about what
>> qualifications are required before someone validates, and I'm not
>> sure there is an answer to that - a few of my thoughts; 1. I've
>> checked up on one validator who had (at the time I checked)
>> never completed a square - extremely good mapper with lots of
>> experience in other areas of mapping, and gives good feedback -
>> if it's you, keep up the good work, thanks. 2. I found someone
>> mapping on the day their OSM username was issued. Their mapping
>> was obviously well beyond the standard we expect of a new
>> mapper. On sending a message I established they wanted a new
>> username to use whilst mapping for HOT - I asked them to start
>> validating. Again, keep up the good work, thanks. 3. I'm still
>> learning.
>> Perhaps this is something for discussion at one of the working
>> groups. --
>> Nick
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