[HOT] HOT is now on LinkedIn
heatherleson at gmail.com
Mon Feb 16 18:27:42 UTC 2015
Thanks for this discussion. I'm back online and now living in Doha, Qatar!
Mark, thanks again for setting up Linked in. I am a huge fan of the
potential of volunteer.linkedin.com. While it is not a tool for everyone,
I firmly believe that HOT as a global community can and should use it as an
engagement avenue. This is important on a few fronts:
1. Outreach: What if many more professionals learned about HOT and decided
to contribute? Reaching new professionals to engage in any number of HOT
activities as found mentioned on the mailing list and/or the task manager.
2. Give Thanks: In some parts of the world, it is important that community
be a 'professional' or 'work-related' recognition. Many people carry a list
of credentials, memberships and community involvement as part of their job
search. Linked in opens up this avenue.
Some of the professional organizations/communities that I engage in on
Linked in include:
Ushahidi, Open Knowledge, ICANN NCUC, Cisco, Carleton University, Agile
People Manifesto, Community Managers, Crisis Emergency and Disaster
Recovery Professionals, NANOG, Open Government Canada, Tech Change Alumni
and Friends, and VGI Crowdsourcing Geo data...etc.
As mentioned I now live in the Arabian Peninsula. It is my understanding
that credentials and professional referrals are key to any time of
engagement. That and, of course, in person introductions. So, I think that
Linked In can prove to be very advantageous to the goals of HOT globally.
heatherleson at gmail.com
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 8:32 PM, Russell Deffner <russell.deffner at hotosm.org
> Good day everyone,
> First, let me say that I have had the pleasure of meeting and getting to
> know Paul a bit and completely respect him and the work he does for
> Paul, thank you for the clarifications. I only mentioned your official
> role because it seemed to me from your original post, regarding the
> trademark issue, that you were not recognizing the history and working
> relationship of the two organizations. Maybe I can state my main point
> more clearly: this mailing list is not a very good platform to discuss
> sensitive legal matters because you’ll get replies from folks like me who
> have no authority to enter into those negotiations. Just as you probably
> wouldn’t approach other ‘chapters’ on their talk lists.
> Kind regards,
> (speaking on my own accord and not in my role with HOT)
> *From:* Paul Norman [mailto:penorman at mac.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 12, 2015 10:52 PM
> *To:* hot at openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* Re: [HOT] HOT is now on LinkedIn
> On 2/12/2015 10:00 AM, Russell Deffner wrote:
> I know Paul is a freshman OSMF Board Member, but I hope he knows that HOT
> (US Inc) has been actively engaged and willing to participate in such
> documentation/agreement as the Local (and Thematic) Chapter Agreements,
> Corporate Partnerships, etc.
> I was not writing in my role as a board member but in a personal capacity.
> The most current information that I could find was from the August 2014
> OSMF Board Meeting Minutes which said in regards to the LCA, and I quote:
> “The plan is to move that agreement to the OSMF web site and add small
> FAQ, then invite larger existing chapters to enter negotiations. Short list
> right now: Italy, France, Japan, US, HOT plus probably a few others.”
> As a secretary I am handling local chapter applications. The current
> status of LC applications is that I have put out a couple of small public
> calls for interested organizations to apply to become chapters, but have
> not yet reached out to others as I'd prefer to keep the number of
> applicants at one time to a manageable number.
> The use of trademarks is allowed under the LCA – which according to that
> last documented statement of the OSMF, HOT is recognized and in negotiation.
> HOT US Inc has not applied to become a chapter and are not in negotiation.
> Being recognized as a chapter would occur after the application is
> completed and accepted, which would be longer.
> If HOT US Inc or anyone else is interested in becoming a local chapter,
> the information to start the process is at
> It actually seems to be more of a problem for non-registered entities to
> use OSM trademarks because the LCA requires the chapter to submit articles
> of incorporation and bylaws. Unfortunately in the US – not-for-profit or
> non-profit organizations *are* companies, basically there is no
> incorporated entity that is not technically a company under US law.
> The question of a trademark policy has been referred to the WGs, but it
> could allow use by non-registered entities
> HOT mailing list
> HOT at openstreetmap.org
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