[HOT] Worried about task 1018

Severin Menard severin.menard at gmail.com
Sat May 9 11:49:34 UTC 2015


Hi all,

I understand your worry Paul, and have the same experience of unvalidating
tasks. I put clear comments for the people to know why. There is no offense
I hope, everyone has been a beginner once and learning and improving is
part of the motivation with OSM, IMHO.
I just suggested this change in the asking Manager that should prevent in
the future the fact that tiles are validated by beginners:

https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/598, titled: Validate
button only for mappers who clicked previously on Edit with JOSM.

I also hope iD will have in the future not only a building mapping tool,
but also (as mappers may not use the building tool) an automatic
proposition to square or round the shape that has just been traced as soon
as a building tag is chosen (GitHub issue:
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/2624).


The tools and the documentation apart, we also need to organize and
exchange between us the people: who is interested in validation checking
meaning also providing feedback or monitoring beginners? Basically you need
to be a proficient user of JOSM and having a lot of edits (not less than
with 4-5 zeros, I would say)

It takes a bit of time but it is valuable and a nice way to interact. My
hello to Suzan Reed who asked me  directly for monitoring her tasks.

We have a list
<http://tools.neis-one.org/tmp/20150425-20150505_Nepal_NewContributorsOSM.txt>
(thanks to Pascal Neis!) of the beginners from the start of the Activation,
some are drive-bys (typically only 1 day of mapping, a few edits) and
others more to super committed mappers. I have started a spreadsheet for
those who would like to monitor these committed mappers.


Sincerely,


Severin

On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Extra Paul <paulokoko at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Dear openstreetmappers :)
>
> I'm quite worried about the quality of maps for task 1018.
> Many of mappers, obviously, did not check the instructions or even the
> tutorials. People want to help, and that's awesome, but maybe validation
> should be done my more experienced and meticulous mappers.
> I've seen mappers validating more that 10 areas in less than an hour, and
> those areas still contain many errors : clusters of buildings mapped as
> one, landuse=residential area used for clusters of nothing more than 1 or 2
> buildings, many streams seen as footpath, many paths in the middle of
> nowhere...
> Maybe instructions should contain some images to show clearly what is
> expected, and explain that the purpose of this map is to count each
> individual buildings and have roads and paths connected to them so
> buildings can be reached by humanitarian teams.
> Currently, most of my time on 1018 is to check validated areas because
> half of those areas are not correctly mapped.
>
> Paul
>
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