[HOT] DRAFT- HOT Nepal Response Community Survey

Heather Leson heatherleson at gmail.com
Thu May 21 08:15:16 UTC 2015


HI Suzan, I think the summary is very good

heather

Heather Leson
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Blog: textontechs.com

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 4:22 AM, Suzan Reed <suzan at suzanreed.com> wrote:

> Is everyone clear about exactly what data is needed, and the purpose(s) of
> sending an email and the survey? It's a great marketing opportunity.
>
> An email with a survey can have several goals:
> to thank people for their participation,
> to nudge them to participate more,
> and to gather key data.
>
> I'm probably just missing this information so please excuse if this is
> already stated somewhere.
>
> Suzan
>
>
>
> On May 20, 2015, at 6:06 PM, john whelan wrote:
>
> The numbers were merely as an illustration.  Perhaps I should have said
> 100 changesets rather than edits. The precise number to use really needs to
> be determined, and is not in my area of expertise but the principle is I
> think we're interested in different groups of users in different ways.
>
> For new mappers I think its more what can we do to improve the experience
> both to get a bit more useful mapping from you and second to tempt you
> back, there is a lot more HOT mapping than Nepal.
>
> For experienced mappers my personal view is again what can we do to help
> and can we nudge you into doing some validation.
>
> Having worked at Stats Can for a few years some of their methodology has
> rubbed off, and one bit was never ask a question if you can find out the
> answer in another way,  it gives people the chance to be economical with
> the truth.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 20 May 2015 at 20:11, john o'l <ol.john.el at gmail.com> wrote:
> As an inexperienced OSM mapper, yet someone who believes that there is
> merit in the HOT approach, I found that I was frustrated for much of the
> time I tried to participate according to instructions and by following
> pointers and tracking down relevant resources.  My participation during the
> few days I spent on this track far exceeded the specific thresholds
> mentioned earlier of “one session in Nepal and …less than 5 edits in OSM”
> and “experienced in OSM say greater than 100 edits.”  For the record,
> according to a list published a couple of weeks ago I did more than 30
> changesets and 1800 edits over 6 days.  I’d wager that a substantial
> proportion of them didn’t meet preferred standards for validation. I also
> know that there were a few instances where I just bailed once I got error
> messages regarding the operation of the editor window itself or after my
> attempt to save a chunk of changes got thwarted somehow.
>
>
> Anyway, keeping this short to maintain focus on the numbers being used to
> classify and focus certain sets of questions… they seem low to me, but it
> is possible that I’m exceptionally bull-headed and dense. And no worries,
> you'll probably have an opportunity to hear more of my feedback once the
> Nepal activation sprint transitions more completely into a marathon.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Pierre Béland <pierzenh at yahoo.fr> wrote:
> Yes it would be an idea to classify people and send a different url for
> - 1 day edit
> - less then xxx edits
> - others
>
> We would also know how many answered in each of these groups while
> respecting anonymity.
>
> Pierre
>
> De : john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
> À : Pierre Béland <pierzenh at yahoo.fr>
> Cc : Heather Leson <heatherleson at gmail.com>; "HOT at OSM (Humanitarian
> OpenStreetMap Team)" <hot at openstreetmap.org>
> Envoyé le : Mercredi 20 mai 2015 18h48
>
> Objet : Re: [HOT] DRAFT- HOT Nepal Response Community Survey
>
> You should be able to get a list of HOT /OSM ids with the data attached.
> Now extract from this those who have only done one session in Nepal and
> have less than 5 edits in OSM.
>
> When you send out the questionnaire to this group you send them a link to
> the full version.
>
> For those who are experienced in OSM say greater than 100 edits send them
> a link which omits the training questions.  Etc.
>
> If you can find someone to code it it is technically possible that when
> you send the link you also send the email address embedded in the link.
>
> Hopefully that makes it a bit clearer.
>
> Cheerio John
>
>
>
>
>
> On 20 May 2015 at 18:34, Pierre Béland <pierzenh at yahoo.fr> wrote:
> John
>
> This will work only with the people that accept to provide their identity
> and osm nickname.
>
>
> Pierre
>
> De : john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
> À : Heather Leson <heatherleson at gmail.com>
> Cc : "HOT at OSM (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team)" <hot at openstreetmap.org>
> Envoyé le : Mercredi 20 mai 2015 17h54
> Objet : Re: [HOT] DRAFT- HOT Nepal Response Community Survey
>
> It appears my comments on email addresses were not understood clearly.
>
> If we do an extract on OSM and HOT we can identify people who have mapped
> in OSM before, those who have mapped on only one occasion in Nepal etc.  In
> other words if we only send the relevant questions to a group of email
> addresses who we know have never mapped before then we can tailor the
> questions specifically to them.  Or have two or three versions of the
> questionnaire one for each group we are interested in.  The other method is
> to pick up their email address, there are methods to do this by passing the
> information in the link to the questionnaire.  If you use that method then
> link the email address to the questionnaire you can then link it to other
> information from HOT and OSM.  However this method may run into privacy law
> considerations in various countries unless you ask permission.
>
> Asking an experienced mapper say one with a hundred plus edits in OSM what
> they think of the training is probably a waste of time, they probably
> didn't look at it.  However by asking them the question you have added to
> respondent burden.  If you know the answer or can deduce it then first its
> probably more accurate, people do not always answer truthfully, second the
> normal rule of surveys is take up the minimum time necessary to get the
> information you require.
>
> Can you get the person's country from their OSM profile?  etc.  Can we get
> their preferred language from their OSM profile?
>
> Another issue is if you are going to host the questionnaire on Hackpad or
> Dropbox then you may lose some respondents who will not agree to giving up
> their list of email contacts to dropbox should they elect to sign in using
> something like Google sign in.  Typically these may represent a group of
> users you might be interested in.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 19 May 2015 at 12:38, Heather Leson <heatherleson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> HI Folks, A few of us have been working hard to create a HOT Nepal
> Response Community Survey. We have collected input from working groups and
> activation leads. With so many new contributors and deep engagement at all
> levels, we really heard your comments on the list and see the future
> opportunities.
>
> The final version is not ready yet, but we are close. Take a look and add
> some comments. Note: it is our goal to be as brief as possible to respect
> people's time.
>
> https://hackpad.com/HOT-Nepal-Response-Community-Survey-pOlKdatnSk2
>
> Tyler, Heather and the team are aiming to send this far and wide by May
> 21st.
>
>
> (Note: this is the first time we have ever done a formal HOT community
> survey. We do want to improve and hope that your input once the survey will
> help you grow HOT. Stay tuned for when it is live.)
>
> Also, if you want to be part of the data analytics (post survey team),
> please let us know
>
> Thanks!
>
> Heather on behalf of the team
>
>
> Heather Leson
> heatherleson at gmail.com
> Twitter: HeatherLeson
> Blog: textontechs.com
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