[HOT] Cat-5 Hurricane Patricia heading to Mexican Pacific Coast

Jean-Guilhem Cailton jgc at arkemie.com
Fri Oct 23 23:44:56 UTC 2015


(in English below)

Hola,

El sitio de datos abiertos datos.gob.mx acaba de hacer disponible una
cobertura de imágenes de satélite SPOT 6 y 7, fusionadas a color
natural, con resolución de 1.5 metros de resolución, el cubrimiento
nacional está conformado por 856 imágenes, todas ellas, tienen fecha de
toma entre noviembre de 2014 y junio de 2015. Fuente: Servicio de
Información Agroalimentaria y Pesquera (SIAP). Estación de Recepción
México (ERMEX)
como servicio WMS bajo http://187.191.14.5/ermex/sola0024_0X911i279_11.exe

Un servicio TMS proxy-cache de esta misma cobertura, (que podría ofrecer
un aceso optimizado), ya está disponible también, con URL para JOSM :
tms[22]:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/mexico_spot/{zoom}/{x}/{y}

y para iD
http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/mexico_spot/{z}/{x}/{y}

La resolución no es tan buena como la de Bing, pero las imágenes son mas
recientes, y podrían ser útil para ver obras o construcción reciente.
Y Rafael hizo un mapa de areas donde falta Bing alta resolución :
http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/areas-without-bing-high-resolution-imagery_57543#8/20.002/-104.211

Saludos,

Jean-Guilhem

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Hi All,

The Mexico open data site datos.gob.mx has just made available a SPOT 6
and 7 satellite images cover, merged to natural color, with a resolution
of 1.5 m. The national cover is made of 856 images, taken between
November 2014 and June 2015. Source: Servicio de Información
Agroalimentaria y Pesquera (SIAP). Estación de Recepción México (ERMEX)
as WMS service under http://187.191.14.5/ermex/sola0024_0X911i279_11.exe

A TMS proxy cache service of this same cover (that could offer an
optimized access) is now available too. Its URL for JOSM is:
tms[22]:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/mexico_spot/{zoom}/{x}/{y}

and for iD:
http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/mexico_spot/{z}/{x}/{y}

The resolution is not as good as the one of Bing high resolution images,
but the images are recent, and could be useful to map recent works or
new buildings.
Also Rafael made a map of areas where Bing high resolution is missing:
http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/areas-without-bing-high-resolution-imagery_57543#8/20.002/-104.211

Best wishes,

Jean-Guilhem



Le 23/10/2015 21:53, OpenStreetMap Mexico a écrit :
> Hi All,
>
> That's right, any data released by the government in Mexico is open
> data, it's not CC BY, it has it's own terms of use called "Libre Uso
> MX <http://datos.gob.mx/libreusomx/>" which state that the only
> requisite for using the data in this case is attribution, which can
> easily be accomplished by attribution in the source tag of the
> imported data. We've already clarified this with the government and
> with the institution issuing most of the data (INEGI).
>
> If you want the legal framework go the following government website
> which includes the presidential mandate that backs up what is said
> above (Spanish only), so yes, this one is actually signed by the
> president of Mexico.
>
> http://www.dof.gob.mx/nota_detalle.php?codigo=5382838&fecha=20/02/2015
>
> If still in doubt and for your peace of mind, the actual director of
> the president's office open data initiative, Rodolfo Wilhelmly is also
> on this thread.  
>
> Best,
> Miriam González
> @mapanauta
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Ortiz, Andres - (p)
> <andreso at telenav.com <mailto:andreso at telenav.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>      
>
>     Just to let you know , Mexico’s cartographic data is open data and
>     is freely to use, the only requirement is to use attribution in
>     the comments when importing it .
>
>      
>
>     Thanks,
>
>      
>
>     *Andrés Ortiz Haro*
>
>     * *
>
>     *cid:image001.png at 01CCCBC6.EA1CA250*
>
>      
>
>      
>
>      
>
>     *From:*Ian Schuler [mailto:ian at developmentseed.org
>     <mailto:ian at developmentseed.org>]
>     *Sent:* Friday, October 23, 2015 7:57 AM
>     *To:* Pierre Béland
>     *Cc:* HOT
>     *Subject:* Re: [HOT] Cat-5 Hurricane Patricia heading to Mexican
>     Pacific Coast
>
>      
>
>     I agree that this is an absolutely nonsensical process.
>
>     For government created and licensed data who even has the
>     authority to sign a document like this? The President? Congress?
>
>     This seems to provide such a thin veneer of (probably unnecessary)
>     legal protection that it isn't worth the headache. There has to be
>     a better way to go about this. If a paper trail is needed (and I'm
>     not convinced it is) it might be easier to obtain a simple letter
>     that states that it is the government agencies understanding that
>     their license is consistent with use by OSM.
>
>      
>
>     On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Pierre Béland <pierzenh at yahoo.fr
>     <mailto:pierzenh at yahoo.fr>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Rodolfo,
>
>      
>
>     As Rafael said, we had problems importing for Nepal. We spent a
>     lot of time in the midlle of a crisis to prepare the data and
>     discuss on the import list, this without any success.
>
>      
>
>     The same with COD/FOD. This cannot in general be imported into OSM.
>
>      
>
>     The best then is to carry all such data available and create
>     layers to overlay over OSM. Not the ideal, but the best solution
>     to operate when a disaster surge.
>
>      
>
>      
>
>     */ 
>     /**/Pierre /*
>
>      
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     *De :*"hyances at gmail.com <mailto:hyances at gmail.com>"
>     <hyances at gmail.com <mailto:hyances at gmail.com>>
>     *À :* Rafael Avila Coya <ravilacoya at gmail.com
>     <mailto:ravilacoya at gmail.com>>
>     *Cc :* HOT <hot at openstreetmap.org <mailto:hot at openstreetmap.org>>
>     *Envoyé le :* Vendredi 23 octobre 2015 7h43
>     *Objet :* Re: [HOT] Cat-5 Hurricane Patricia heading to Mexican
>     Pacific Coast
>
>      
>
>     Hi all,
>
>      
>
>     here is the same document translated to spanish that was used
>     during landslides in Salgar, Colombia (you can copy and adapt):
>
>      
>
>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tgDphn6dQMBRWU-psUzc-ieyu3UpRrGTjhOPJ0isSJM/edit?usp=sharing
>
>      
>
>     Rafael, I'm not so expert with imports, just thinking with another
>     hut: what about if a raster image is created from the data and
>     then used to create derivate data (by tracing)?  Each image (with
>     points, vectors or polygons) could be a set of themes --by
>     colors-- (cod, fod or any other pertinent geospatial object).
>
>      
>
>     Rodolfo, do you think is possible to contact agriculture (or other
>     private/public) institutions that may have aerial imagery that can
>     be used for a potential disaster?
>
>      
>
>     There are some field pictures in mapillary that maybe can help:
>
>      
>
>     https://www.mapillary.com/map/search/16.903176634591702/-99.1884312967026/8 (maybe
>     you can deploy a fast mission with vehicules before hurricane
>     arrives).
>
>      
>
>     Best,
>
>      
>
>     Humberto
>
>      
>
>     2015-10-23 4:35 GMT-05:00 Rafael Avila Coya <ravilacoya at gmail.com
>     <mailto:ravilacoya at gmail.com>>:
>
>      
>
>         -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>         Hash: SHA1
>
>         Hi all:
>
>         You can download an Authorization of use of data here:
>         https://www.dropbox.com/s/je68b52fe1ns3gm/Authorization%20of%20the%20use%20and%20sharing%20of%20data.pdf?dl=0
>
>         I don't know if there is an Spanish-translated one.
>
>         We got the same problem with CC-by when trying to import VDC
>         boundaries in Nepal after the earthquake. For me, this is a
>         non-sense,
>         because if you release data with CC-by, you are mainly giving
>         permission to do whatever, and only asking for attribution,
>         that can
>         go in the import wiki and metadata of the changeset (and also the
>         objects too).
>
>         The reason they give is just the opposite: that ODbL doesn't
>         guarantee
>         that they will attribute the data according to the
>         "restrictions" of
>         the CC-by license.
>
>         Sarah Hinchliff Pearson, Senior counsel of Creative Commons,
>         was asked
>         about this and said clearly that ODbL is compatible with
>         CC-by, but
>         not even this statement was sufficient.
>
>         Cheers,
>
>         Rafael.
>
>      
>
>
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