[HOT] [HOT Tagging] Tag for community based healthcare? / Quel tag pour les sites de soins communautaires ?
Rafael Avila Coya
ravilacoya at gmail.com
Tue Sep 22 22:56:26 UTC 2015
Hi, Claire:
On 22/09/15 09:11, Claire Halleux wrote:
> Hi Blake, Rafael and Imre,
>
> Thank you very much for all the good points.
>
> I was actually thinking of some set of tags like the following:
> health_facility:type=office
> health_person:type=community (or community_relay or communitary, to be
> added to the list)
health_person:type=paramedic looks to be quite what you look for:
"places where you can find some people from the community who got a
basic training about malaria testing, + sometimes pulmonary infections
and children diarrheal diseases diagnostics", as a paramedic is "a
health care related person, who got at least enough training to do his
work, which is to help in the case of emergencies."
What I mean is that, apart from not being in the health_person:type list
yet, it's not all the community who provide this first aid, but only
some trained people in the community.
> health_service:test=yes
> disease:malaria=yes (that's the most common one)
> temporary=yes (as some are specifically set up for the seasonal malaria
> peak)
temporary=yes [1][2] is being used only for temporary facilities (like
disaster refugee camps, roads in construction, etc.). But in the case of
this community health offices, what you mean is not a temporary object,
but a "permanent" one that is open only in a season of the year, so that
should go in opening_hours
As Sud-Kivu rainy season (malaria peak) goes from November to March (if
I am not mistaken), the tag could be something like:
opening_hours=Jan-Mar, Nov-Dec: sunrise-sunset
If they close on Sunday for example, you can make it:
opening_hours=Jan-Mar, Nov-Dec: Mo-Sa sunrise-sunset
I know that talking about opening hours in a small village in deep RDC
is almost a joke, anyway. But I think temporary=* is a wrong tag here.
I agree with the rest of tags you propose that I didn't comment.
Cheers, and have a nice week,
Rafael.
[1]
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/temporary
[2]
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags/Humanitarian_Data_Background
>
> I don't feel comfortable with tagging the building as hospital or adding
> amenity=doctors while this is what is used for proper health centers
> (even if I'd like it better to see those services also rendered).In the
> case described here, there are no doctors, not even nurses in those
> places and yet this is normal (it's not the case of a health center
> which should have doctors despite not having any).
>
> Best,
>
> Claire
>
> Claire Halleux
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> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Rafael Avila Coya <ravilacoya at gmail.com
> <mailto:ravilacoya at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi, Imre:
>
> Yeah, after sending the email I remembered that.
>
> staff_count:nurses=* might be ok. Alternatively, we could use
> staff_count:paramedics=* or staff_count:therapists=*
>
> Another thing that I remembered and didn't say in my email:
>
> I would tag with a node over the facility. Facility building/s should be
> tagged as building=hospital (I always thing that a building=health tag
> or similar would be better...).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rafael.
>
> On 21/09/15 15:40, Imre Samu wrote:
> > Hi Rafael,
> >
> > I will also add 2 more keys * * ( according to your documentation [2]
> > and data [1] )
> > - *staff_count:doctors=0 *( with the key: amenity=doctors ...
> this
> > is a good indicator )
> > *- staff_count:nurses=1 * ( 0...n ; number of health
> trained people )
> >
> > [1] overpass query: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/bzt (
> > medical_system:western=* )
> > example node: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3458635952
> > [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_Nigeria_eHealth_Borno_Health_Facilities#Tagging_Plans
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Imre
> >
> >
> > 2015-09-21 14:13 GMT+02:00 Rafael Avila Coya <ravilacoya at gmail.com <mailto:ravilacoya at gmail.com>
> > <mailto:ravilacoya at gmail.com <mailto:ravilacoya at gmail.com>>>:
> >
> > Hi, Claire:
> >
> > I had to deal with this already for a eHealth-collected health
> > facilities import in Borno State, Nigeria [1]. I used the
> HealthCare2.0
> > tagging schema (as Blake is also suggesting too), adding some
> > traditional tags for rendering purposes.
> >
> > For this kind of facilities, I would suggest the following:
> >
> > For all facilities:
> >
> > 1. medical_system:western=yes
> >
> > 2. health_facility:type=office
> > 3. office=paramedic OR office=therapist
> >
> > 4. health_specialty:paediatric_gastroenterology=partial/no
> #For children
> > diarrheal diseases
> > 5. health_specialty:tropical_medicine=partial/no #Malaria and
> others
> > 6. health_specialty:pulmonology=partial/no #For pulmonar diseases
> >
> > 7. amenity=doctors #This is for compatibility with traditional
> health
> > care tagging
> >
> > I would also add to all of them:
> >
> > 8. power_supply=yes/no/unknown #It might be interesting to know if
> > electricity is available.
> >
> > Only in case health_specialty:tropical_medicine=partial, add:
> >
> > 9. disease:malaria=yes
> >
> > You might add diarrhea diseases too, like
> > disease:amoebic_dysentery=yes/no , etc., always in case
> > health_specialty:paediatric_gastroenterology=partial
> >
> > Other optional tags:
> >
> > 10. opening_hours=*
> > 11. operator=*
> > 12. operator:type=public/private/...
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Rafael.
> >
> > [1]
> >
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_Nigeria_eHealth_Borno_Health_Facilities#Tagging_Plans
> >
> > On 21/09/15 12:45, Blake Girardot wrote:
> > > Hi Claire,
> > >
> > > It is a bit long and kind of complicated, but do you think a
> > combination
> > > of the healthcare 2.0 proposal could address the facilities?
> > >
> > >
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Healthcare_2.0
> > >
> > > It does say part of its goal was to deal with community based
> > services.
> > >
> > > Maybe we need to add some possible values to the existing
> proposal.
> > >
> > > Lets get this sorted out.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Blake
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/21/2015 9:52 AM, Claire Halleux wrote:
> > >> (English below)
> > >>
> > >> Bonjour à tous,
> > >> Au Sud-Kivu, on rencontre régulièrement des "sites de soins
> > >> communautaires", c'est à dire des lieux où l'on peut
> s'adresser à des
> > >> relais communautaires (membres de la communauté) ayant reçu une
> > >> formation spécifique au diagnostic du palu en général mais
> > parfois aussi
> > >> pour les infections respiratoires et les diarrhées des
> enfants. Ils
> > >> disposent généralement de médicaments, fournis par des
> organisations
> > >> médicales. .
> > >> Ce service est très utile en particulier dans les zones
> rurales ne
> > >> disposant pas de centre de santé. Cependant, les relais
> > communautaires
> > >> n'étant pas des docteurs, je me retrouve actuellement face à la
> > >> difficulté de trouver les tags appropriés. Des idées ou
> tags à me
> > >> suggérer? Merci d'avance.
> > >>
> > >> Hi everyone,
> > >> In South Kivu, we regularly meet "community-based
> healthcare sites",
> > >> i.e. places where you can find some people from the
> community who
> > got a
> > >> basic training about malaria testing, + sometimes pulmonary
> > infections
> > >> and children diarrheal diseases diagnostics. They are usually
> > supplied
> > >> with medicines by medical organisations.
> > >> This service is quite useful as it helps treating patients
> (specially
> > >> children) closer to the place they live, in particular in
> rural areas
> > >> where you can't find any health center or doctor.
> > >> I'm currently facing the issue of tagging this kind of
> place. Any tag
> > >> suggestion would be much appreciated.
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >>
> > >> Claire
> > >>
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