[HOT] Squared buildings

[Dale Kunce]

I agree with Mike. This is part training, which I think we all strive to do
a good job on. I know all the Missing Maps one stress the need to square
buildings. It's frustrating to watch new mappers try and square stuff to
not have it work. Simply saying they weren't trained enough is not a good
enough answer and is short sighted for the vast majority of new mappers.

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016, 4:58 PM Mike Thompson <miketho16 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Paul Norman <penorman at mac.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/14/2016 1:16 PM, Mike Thompson wrote:
>>
>> Those are both things that I already tell new mappers. But they type 's'
>> and think they have made a square building.  We can talk about how that
>> they should notice that nothing changed, but no one has ever asked me "why
>> doesn't the 's' key work?" Perhaps they think that the squaring happens
>> behind the scene and isn't visible? Who knows. Below are some of the
>> results (blue buildings) from a recent mapathon.
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>>
>> They're not attempting to square the buildings, which indicates a problem
>> with how they're being instructed.
>>
> They were given 20 minutes of instruction / demonstration on a projector
> in a classroom, as well as provided with written instructions.  I am
> certainly open to - and always attempting to - improve my instruction.  But
> I feel the instruction at this event was pretty good. In any event, having
> to explain, "the 's' key will only work if you are reasonably close and
> there is no error message" is just one more thing to explain and for the
> new mappers to remember.
>
> These are not the exact buildings as those were fixed during the mapathon
> (sorry for the confusion), but at this mapathon I did walk over to more
> than one mapper and watch them square a building with the 's' key, have
> nothing happen, and then move on.  Most of the buildings they had drawn
> were not square.  I pointed out the error and they did fix their buildings.
> There should at least be an error message, something like "Failed to square
> building, please redraw with angles 90 +/- 12 degrees"
>
>>
>>
>> If all of those buildings have square corners in reality, there's a
>> second problem that some are so crudely drawn that neither iD or JOSM will
>> come up with a sensible result when attempting to do so.
>>
> JOSM will make the change, it may not match the imagery, but it will be
> obvious that something has changed, hopefully prompting the user to make
> adjustments and try again.
>
>>
>>
>
>> Mike
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