[HOT] How to become a validator (a suggestion)

[graham]

Steve,

Thanks for the feed back. Great to know that a course has been thought 
of earlier. Via the Task manager seems a good way to get quick and 
simple feedback , as you mentioned.

Cheers,
Graham


On 12/4/2016 2:49, Steve Bower wrote:
> Graham,
> Excellent questions on an important topic - I think HOT has improved 
> its mentoring & management of validation & validators, and needs to 
> continue that effort.
>
> There is a validation course at the HOT Training Center [1], "required 
> training for, and will teach the essential knowledge required to, 
> perform the Validation Role during an Activation". I have not taken 
> the course, and don't know if/how it is "enforced" as a required course.
>
> Regarding "coaching", questioned in your summary list of key points : 
> I think the point is that validators need to be good coaches, giving 
> feedback to the mappers being validated (as John clarified). Feedback 
> from validators has in the past been largely lacking, in my limited 
> experience - hence new mappers don't always learn from their mistakes. 
> The Tasking Manager could be enhanced to simplify and encourage 
> feedback from validators to appropriate mappers.
>
> Mike Thompson : Regarding:
>
>     "1) If the instructions explicitly say not to map something (e.g.
>     tracks) but some were mapped and were done so correctly by the
>     generally accepted practices in OSM, do you leave them?  I did."
>
>
> I would give the feedback that it was not necessary to trace the 
> tracks, and that it would be preferable to stick to 
> the requested features in the future in order to complete the project 
> as quickly as possible. However, they were traced correctly, and thank 
> you for the contribution and your extra work. (As John said, in 
> general the work of others should not be deleted, only corrected as 
> needed.)
>
> [1] http://courses.hotosm.org/course/index.php?categoryid=2
>
> Cheers,
> ~~Steve
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Mike Thompson <miketho16 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:miketho16 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 11:25 AM, john whelan
>     <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com <mailto:jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         If you read through the wiki it specifically mentions
>         highway=service.
>
>         >By default,
>         primary/secondary/tertiary/unclassified/residential and
>         service highway
>         <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway>=* are
>         supposed to be paved.
>
>     It would be more clear and obvious if highway=service appeared in
>     the table with the other possible values, but I will accept this
>     as indicating that we should "highway=service" roads in Africa.
>
>
>         When I'm validating then I consider I'm validating the work
>         done by HOT mappers on this project on the tile.  Any previous
>         work that was there before I consider governed by the general
>         rules of OSM ie don't touch it unless its very clearly wrong
>         and even then there is a long winded protocol that it is
>         recommended you follow.  I certainly won't delete anything
>         because it wasn't there on the image.  <Crtl>i can be helpful
>         and looking at the number of edits the mapper has made can
>         give you a clue as well.
>
>     Good advice
>
>
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