[HOT] how newer mappers can help a lot with the validation process

Russell Deffner russell.deffner at hotosm.org
Tue Feb 16 20:44:00 UTC 2016


Ok, also on the ‘front-page’ of the Tasking Manager where you see the ‘brief’ of the project, you can find out who the specific Project Manager/creator is and maybe get clarification or ask them to specify in the instructions.

=Russ

 

From: john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0112 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 1:35 PM
To: Russell Deffner
Cc: Daniel Specht; hot at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [HOT] how newer mappers can help a lot with the validation process

 

I think the classic that Daniel identified is map all roads.  Does it mean highway=unclassified and above, everything including tracks?  Adding tracks in can double the amount of effort.

Perhaps if we had some sort of validation of the project instructions before the tile is released?

I think best practises covers it nicely.  Perhaps in the training mention that projects with simple clear instructions have a better completion rate than more muzzy ones?

Cheerio John

 

On 16 February 2016 at 13:11, Russell Deffner <russell.deffner at hotosm.org> wrote:

Hi John,

 

It feels a bit odd to try and reply ‘on behalf of the AWG’ to…

So HOT activation group can you first inspect the instructions and then confirm with the project managers to see if we can reduce the possibility of different interpretations?  ie keep them as simple as possible.

But I think what you’re trying to address is a bit of a training/communication thing; each Project is created by an individual account that has permission/privilege on whatever instance of the Tasking Manager the project is created on. The main HOT instance for example has somewhere around 100 people/accounts that can create projects there. In order to try and get ‘better instructions’ we have set-up a mailing list for everyone to communicate (tm-project-managers@) and ideally we’ll get some great training via courses@ and LearnOSM.  In other words, we really do need to create some ‘best practices’ for making the most efficient projects for the desired result, but some of that needs to be HOT/Disaster specific and some should be more broad to help those running other instances of the Tasking Manager – such as TeachOSM.

 

Anyway, great discussion – just trying to direct some action – it is on the Activation WG Trello to ‘further utilize’ the tm mailing list, training, etc.

 

=Russ

 

From: john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0112 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 7:19 AM
To: Daniel Specht
Cc: hot at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [HOT] how newer mappers can help a lot with the validation process

 

So to clarify what you're saying is the project instructions should be much more precise.  The project managers should ask for precisely what is needed rather than we'd like everything since when we are imprecise different mappers and validators interpret the instructions differently.  Also asking for everything takes away resources from other projects.

So HOT activation group can you first inspect the instructions and then confirm with the project managers to see if we can reduce the possibility of different interpretations?  ie keep them as simple as possible.

Would it be an idea to go over the "abandoned" projects iethose that have been around for more than a year and see if by reducing the requested instructions we can at least get the highways and the major landuse=residential areas in?

Cheerio John

 

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