[HOT] Reports about actual use of the results of HOT efforts

Martin Noblecourt m_noblecourt at cartong.org
Mon Jul 4 07:14:19 UTC 2016


Dear Peter,

This is a reoccurring question, there was a thread about it less than 
one month ago in this list: 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/2016-June/011992.html

Several resources are listed in that thread (inc. the case study by 
Médecins Sans Frontières' GIS Unit on Ebola which is probably one of the 
most consistent one: 
http://cartong.org/news/update-msf-case-study-gis-ebola-response), 
although more could certainly be added (and to my knowledge no 
academic-level synthesis exists).

Several NGOs are trying to improve the feedback towards the HOT 
community, in particular the members of the Missing Maps project, 
however this requires time which is why it is not always done perfectly.

Thanks & best regards.

Martin



On 03/07/2016 14:00, hot-request at openstreetmap.org wrote:
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> Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 09:12:35 +0200
> From: Peter Gervai<grinapo at gmail.com>
> To:hot at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: [HOT] Reports about actual use of the results of HOT efforts
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> Hello HOT!
>
> I decided to bring this over from
> https://github.com/hotosm/hotosm-website/issues/65
> and
> https://github.com/hotosm/hotosm-website/issues/84#issuecomment-217356627
> (both closed, btw) since I have realised this may be of a wider interest.
>
> The original request was about the problem that while there are plenty of
> showcases about the_results_  of the various HOT maps there are
> almost none - or if there is they are very hard to find - about how these
> mapping results were_used_  on the field out there.
>
> Actual reports from the people who received the output of HOT:
> - who are they exactly, where are they from, how are they organised,
> how did they contact HOT?
> - how did they use the data or the maps, what methods, equipment?
> - what did they exactly used it for, what did they do with it?
> - what parts of the map/data was the most helpful for them, how and why?
> - what was not usable for them, what parts were not needed by them?
> - what would they liked to have which was missing?
> - if it's possible to say how much did the HOT results helped their
> efforts? was it a little help? was it the most important help in their
> work?
> - what did they dislike in the results? were there dangerously
> unreliable, misrepresented, otherwise problematic areas? were the
> "white western people" able to map what's out there or were they
> misunderstood what they saw on the imagery? I would like to know the
> problems, too.
>
> Maybe there are such reports, then I would be very glad if you people
> would point me to them. (I would then forward it to the webite team to
> include it on the main website, too.)
>
> If there are not much of those, which I suspect, I would propose a simple thing:
>
>
> HOT (community) give map and data to organisations, organisations give
> reports of actual usage to HOT (community).
> This should be the only thing we would kindly, but firmly ask for it in return.
>
>
> As I wrote in the linked ticket above: "there is a big difference
> between asking me to help creating a map somewhere just because the
> area isn't covered (like when I was mapping rivers in Siberia, vast
> lands with not a single node around, but nobody really care or use it,
> it's just for fun) or because there are actual people requiring this
> actual result to do actual work."
>
> Apart from that, I would like to know whether my efforts are really
> useful (apart from the "good to have" maps), there are actual people
> who ask this very question from me and expecting answers, and I only
> have general answers with lots of "really useful" and "it's helping
> the people there", but hardly any hard facts or actual description of
> what really was the effect of the HOT efforts.
>
> Thank you,
> Peter Gervai
> OSM Hungary

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