[HOT] iD tags changed? Re: Difficulty in communicating with iD users

[Paul Uithol]

Hi,

Could you please clarify - have the underlying tags and values themselves
changed, or just their descriptions/UI? It sounds like the latter to me
from your response. The former would be bad, the latter is something we
could/should adapt to.

And yes, "unclassified" does confuse people, but it's something they'll be
exposed to and should be explained sooner or later anyway? Don't have a
laptop at hand, but is the underlying tag value still visible in iD? I'm
hoping this has been discussed, but wouldn't a description like "Minor
(unclassified)" be an option?

Best,
Paul
On Mar 5, 2016 12:41 PM, "Richard Fairhurst" <richard at systemed.net> wrote:

> Suzan Reed wrote:
> > Who changed the tags? How do we get them changed back
> > so they match JOSM and all the information about OSM and HOT?
> > [...]
> > The new tags (minor road etc.) do not match any of the Wikis, learning
> > tools in HOT or OSM.
>
> Oh yes they do.
>
> highway=unclassified _means_ a minor road. It has always meant a minor
> road.
> Ever since the highway tagging scheme was invented by Andy Robinson in
> 2006.
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway
>    "minor roads of a lower classification than tertiary"
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dunclassified
>    "The tag highway=unclassified is used for minor public roads"
>
> The word "unclassified" comes from the British road system, as do the other
> values, "motorway", "trunk", "primary" and "secondary". The choice of word
> was unfortunate in retrospect: newcomers often think that it means "a road
> where I don't know the classification" (for which the correct tag is
> highway=road), and I believe this has recently been observed at Missing
> Maps
> events. Ten years on it's not realistic to change the raw tag value, but
> that's why user-friendly editors such as iD and Potlatch have descriptive
> presets rather than simply presenting raw tags.
>
> If iD moving to a more descriptive preset name has made HOT documentation
> out-of-date, you need to change the HOT documentation. Of course, iD is
> open
> source so you always have the alternative of hosting a forked version as
> well.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
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