[HOT] Japanese earthquake projects

john whelan jwhelan0112 at gmail.com
Tue May 10 12:10:32 UTC 2016


I had a reply this morning:

> First, the Facebook maps is using OpenStreetMap data in Japan area. After
our tasks, they updated map tiles by latest OSM map dataset.

I understand these projects have now been lowered from high pirority to low.

I think I'll go back to mapping Africa etc. for some reason mapping to
improve the map for Facebook just doesn't appeal.

Thanks John

On 9 May 2016 at 12:40, Russell Deffner <russell.deffner at hotosm.org> wrote:

> Greetings John and all,
>
>
>
> I will try to help connect you with the local team.  To ‘take us back’ and
> try to answer some of your questions – this response has from the start
> been coordinated by CrisisMappers-Japan. So maybe it is a language issue
> and they did not understand your message? However, what was maybe ‘missed’
> was a quick ‘identification’ by the local team, that the immediate search
> and rescue operations would be done by ‘traditional first responders’ who
> would have their own maps and such, so this has always been more a
> ‘long-term’ recovery/just further helping the wonderful efforts of
> OSM-Japan in general, however I too would like to know if that has changed
> and/or any ‘use cases’ that have come up since then.
>
>
>
> In general, these are good and valid questions/concerns, and HOT is always
> working to improve not only our own coordination, but how we better support
> these local groups.  Language barriers, time zones, and many other things
> contribute to communication challenges, so patience is always key around
> OSM.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> =Russ
>
>
>
> *From:* john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0112 at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, May 09, 2016 10:04 AM
> *To:* Mike Thompson
> *Cc:* hot at openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* Re: [HOT] Japanese earthquake projects
>
>
>
> I'm surprised to have no response to what is happening in Japan.  I think
> surprised is the polite way of putting it.
>
> I even tried to contact the project manager but no response.  It is now
> Tuesday morning in Japan.  I looked at a couple more.
>
> I note that 1799 wants the sea mapping, or at least a third of the tiles
> would seem to be over the sea.
>
> 1798 there is a high priority zone but much of it is not tiled.
>
> 1788 there is a high priority zone but some of it is not tiled.
>
> 1784 wow we've done a really good job of validating the sea on this one.
>
> 1786 again lots of sea to map.  We haven't managed to do the high priority
> zone.
>
> These are in addition to the issues on 1800.
>
> In total there are some dozen projects mostsy high priority relating to
> earthquakes in Japan that's asking for a lot of resources.  I think what
> we've ended up with is too few mappers spread out over too many projects to
> get anything useful done in a reasonable time frame.  Are they still high
> priority?
>
>
>
> Yes mappers don't cost anything in money terms but surely we can expect a
> higher standard of project management than appears to be the case here
> especially with Ecuador needing to be mapped at the same time.
>
> Cheerio John
>
>
>
> On 7 May 2016 at 18:27, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've sent something to the project manager maybe we'll hear something
> after the weekend.
>
> Cheerio John
>
>
>
> On 7 May 2016 at 13:14, Mike Thompson <miketho16 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I would also note that it looks like we have some relatively new (8 total
> OSM change sets) mappers playing the role of validator and invalidating
> tasks for things beyond the requirement of the project (e.g. "incorrect
> paths set" when the project [#1844] only called for buildings).
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 7:02 AM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've been mapping and validating on Project 1800 but it doesn't make a lot
> of sense.
>
> The most difficult part to map is the built up areas with lots of very
> close buildings which in some ways I'd expect a city in Japan to have its
> own maps of buildings. Those tiles take time and lots of it.  The buildings
> are so close together that you really need the building tool to map them
> rather than squaring them afterwards.
>
> These tiles by the way still have a lot of buildings to be mapped even
> though the project says 82% complete I'd say we're only a third the way
> through the buildings.
>
>
> Then we have lots of tiles over the ocean, nothing there, and many many
> tiles over forest, again not much to map.
>
> Could someone expand a little more on who has asked for the mapping and
> what it will be used for?
>
> Thanks John
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> HOT mailing list
> HOT at openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20160510/7142a973/attachment.html>


More information about the HOT mailing list