[HOT] Moving the focus to JOSM in mapathons

Jo winfixit at gmail.com
Sat May 14 20:10:03 UTC 2016


Hi John,

I did create such sticks several months ago and I didn't have that issue.
It must be network/firewall related.

Jo

2016-05-14 21:28 GMT+02:00 john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>:

> I picked up PortableApps from the link and installed it with portable
> Firefox and Jportable.  JOSM runs fine but the link from the HOT tiles
> gives "JOSM remote control did not respond. Do you have JOSM running and
> configured to be controlled remotely?"
>
> I think until we get that resolved the Linux bootable USB stick looks
> favourite.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 14 May 2016 at 14:55, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I was bitten by an infected download from sourceforge when I downloaded
>> FileZilla a few months ago. It came with an obnoxious "backup" solution
>> that does anything but backup.
>>
>> PortableApps seems to be hosted on their own site though:
>> http://portableapps.com/download
>>
>> I didn't have any problems with it and I searched a bit on Google and
>> don't see reports of other people having issues.
>>
>> In fact, my preference OS wise, is Linux. The disadvantage of providing
>> JOSM on a stick, either as PortableApps or as a bootable Linux, is that
>> people don't take it home that way, which makes it less likely they'll
>> continue mapping after the Mapathon. As such, kind of defeating the purpose.
>>
>> The biggest advantage is that everybody is quickly up to speed during the
>> Mapathon, of course.
>>
>> I guess the best "compromise" is somebody who goes through the room
>> during the Mapatahon, who proposes to install and set up JOSM on their own
>> computers. So they don't have to take the hurdle of figuring it out for
>> themselves. Not that it's all that hard, but it's time consuming if it
>> needs to be done on many computers with varying OSes.
>>
>> Polyglot
>>
>>
>>
>> 2016-05-14 20:32 GMT+02:00 Jo <winfixit at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hi Enock,
>>>
>>> You are right. Twitch is a bit annoying with all their publicity for
>>> (mostly) wargames. I should do the extra step of exporting the better ones
>>> to Youtube.
>>>
>>> There is one advantage to Twitch. It works together with OBS (Open
>>> Broadcast Software). All I need to do is activate that and streaming is
>>> automatic, which means that I'm doing it more often, than I would be, if I
>>> had to record, then encode, then upload.
>>>
>>> Jo
>>>
>>> 2016-05-14 19:06 GMT+02:00 Enock Seth Nyamador <kwadzo459 at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jo,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the videos. Why Twitch? Will be very nice and great on the
>>>> side of some of us if you can use Vimeo or YouTube making easier to
>>>> download.
>>>>
>>>> What you say?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> - Enock
>>>> UMaT, Tarkwa
>>>> enockseth.github.io
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Here you can find instructions for install portabableApps on a USB
>>>>> stick:
>>>>> http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/java_portable
>>>>>
>>>>> Then it's not necessary to reboot your computer into Linux. Nor is it
>>>>> necessary to have administrator rights to run Java applications.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding the use of JOSM for Mapathons. I've been trying to promote
>>>>> that idea for a while now. If you want to learn how to configure JOSM and
>>>>> how to use it to add buildings:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/profile/highlights
>>>>>
>>>>> Setting up JOSM:
>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35769115
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35256378
>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35258635
>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35261429
>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35262223
>>>>>
>>>>> Mapping rectangular buildings:
>>>>>
>>>>> Mapping a halter shaped building:
>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/34047877
>>>>>
>>>>> Advanced mapping of building + complex roundabout:
>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33412245
>>>>>
>>>>> Validation:
>>>>>
>>>>> Validation of a task focused on mapping buildings:
>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33926879
>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33978956
>>>>>
>>>>> Improving accuracy of existing buildings:
>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/32524089
>>>>>
>>>>> Use of JOSM's validator:
>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33135797
>>>>>
>>>>> Mass correction of crossing ways reported by JOSM's validator:
>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33197285
>>>>> + check if all is well with todo plugin
>>>>>
>>>>> Fixing duplicate buildings (many of them):
>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35983874
>>>>>
>>>>> Pasting tags on a changeset (from clipboard):
>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/41511097
>>>>>
>>>>> Use of improve way accuracy tool (w) on a road in Uganda:
>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/43661664
>>>>>
>>>>> Mapping an archeological site in Kyrghyzstan using Mapillary
>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/45658771
>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/45661736
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope this helps. Feel free to use these videos for learning and
>>>>> teaching purposes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Polyglot
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2016-05-14 18:04 GMT+02:00 john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> From sardiniaopendata at gmail.com on April 5th 2106
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it looks doable with the right image on the USB stick.  John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "
>>>>>> Dear HOT Team members
>>>>>>
>>>>>> my name is Claudia and I 'm writing on the behave on an italian
>>>>>> association called SardiniaOpenData. Since 2013  we are involved in free
>>>>>> training and mapping using OSM , related to our urban context and to the
>>>>>> humantarian world as I was deployed in Chad with you guys ( thanks again
>>>>>> for the opportunity ) .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm writing to you because we finally manage to have a small
>>>>>> finanincig to organise a 3 modules course, to trainin citizens to map first
>>>>>> using OSM, secondly how to use  WheelMap   training the paraplegic
>>>>>> associationinCagliari . The second module will be about the Tasking Manager
>>>>>> and how to contribute to the remote mapping.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have planned 2 outside  mapping parties  to collect data and 3
>>>>>> indoor lessons to teach them how does the Tasking works. The period
>>>>>> will be May 2016 . For the first year we manage to have free materials to
>>>>>> offer to ours attendants, expecially a personal  usb card with a free
>>>>>> distribution of Linux ( I think Ubuntu 14.04 lts ) with all the tools and
>>>>>> programs already installed, JOSM,website bookmarks concerning all the OSM
>>>>>> world, WkiOSM, LearnOSM, etc..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We wanted to let you know about our training and to share our
>>>>>> enthusiasm . There will be some blog posts out soon , both in  english and
>>>>>> italian.  If you will like to share it, all the team will be really happy.
>>>>>> If thereis  any specific task you'd like us to help , just let us
>>>>>> know. As I did with the last training , I will spend with great pleasure
>>>>>>  15 minutes talking about the HOT Team and your amazing work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have a great day and thaks again !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *The most dangerous thing to do is to stand still.“ William
>>>>>> Burroughs *
>>>>>> We keep on moving !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Claudia
>>>>>> Sardinia Open Data
>>>>>> twitter: @sard_opendata"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14 May 2016 at 12:00, Enock Seth Nyamador <kwadzo459 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > i had no luck booting my laptop into linux to use linux software,
>>>>>>> but I hear it works for a large % of people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Works in some cases provided java (JRE/JDK) is installed in the live
>>>>>>> boot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since most people come along with their own laptops best solution
>>>>>>> is  USB sticks with JRE and JOSM for various Operating Systems. Very
>>>>>>> practical. Learnt this from Severin Menard. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Enock
>>>>>>> UMaT, Tarkwa
>>>>>>> enockseth.github.io
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Blake Girardot <bgirardot at gmail.com
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What about the USB sticks? Those should be on hand so you can boot
>>>>>>>> anyone into a Linux environment with the right java and latest josm
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>> they were curious about josm but did not come expecting to try it or
>>>>>>>> something?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i had no luck booting my laptop into linux to use linux software,
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> I hear it works for a large % of people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This would also solve the "we are in a computer lab and can not get
>>>>>>>> permission to install java or josm on the machiens" issue as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am sure there is an image somewhere and someone could try and make
>>>>>>>> just a rough outline of the steps for our more tech savy people to
>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>> and replicate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>> blake
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 3:39 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > I think if we suggest they download Java before arriving,
>>>>>>>> josm-tested.jar
>>>>>>>> > can be copied for a USB stick or local server ie laptop.  I think
>>>>>>>> that would
>>>>>>>> > save bandwidth and trying to download multiple copies at the same
>>>>>>>> time would
>>>>>>>> > mean delays.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Hopefully it works out.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Thanks John
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > On 14 May 2016 at 07:11, Pete Masters <pedrito1414 at googlemail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Hi all, over the past few weeks, some of the validation chat has
>>>>>>>> focused
>>>>>>>> >> on tools (iD / JOSM, generally). We made a decision at this
>>>>>>>> month's London
>>>>>>>> >> Missing Maps mapathon to try and put more of a focus on using
>>>>>>>> JOSM, rather
>>>>>>>> >> than iD. We're not sure how it went yet, but will continue to
>>>>>>>> try and
>>>>>>>> >> develop this in future months.
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> I have written a quick OSM diary on it, here:
>>>>>>>> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pedrito1414/diary/38604 If
>>>>>>>> you have
>>>>>>>> >> comments, please feel free to leave them there. I am also going
>>>>>>>> to share it
>>>>>>>> >> with new mappers who were involved as they are generally not on
>>>>>>>> this list
>>>>>>>> >> and their thoughts could be interesting...
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Pete
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>>>> >> Pete Masters
>>>>>>>> >> Missing Maps Project Coordinator
>>>>>>>> >> +44 7921 781 518
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> missingmaps.org
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> @pedrito1414
>>>>>>>> >> @theMissingMaps
>>>>>>>> >> facebook.com/MissingMapsProject
>>>>>>>> >>
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