[HOT] Surveying Helicopter Landing Zones (HLZs)

Mon Nov 7 17:08:18 UTC 2016

Maybe adopt the healthsites.io (or ushahidi) model, where functionality for
verification by trusted people is added on top and outside the
openstreetmap database.

Op 7 nov. 2016 5:39 p.m. schreef "Pierre Béland" <pierzenh at yahoo.fr>:

> Hi Denis
>
> In the context of Humanitarian Responses, there are various situations
> were we have specific requests. We accepted for the Nepal response to spot
> eventual helicopter landing zones. We did setup a Skype room to discuss
> with people with experience with helicopters.  Often in the context of such
> emergencies, we dont necessarily have the contact with the persons that
> would use the data or any feedback.
>
> But the interface with operationals in the field is essential. This is
> something we should improve. If organizations want to work with us to do
> such tasks, they should interface and assure we can progress rapidly with
> quality data.
>
> For the Vanuatu response, I had the opportunity to share my screen from
> Skype with an airport controller to validate each landing field on the
> various islands. This was an efficient, rapid way to validate the data, and
> adjust if necessary. We could evaluate if this was a valid landing zone,
> evaluate the lenght of the runway and revise the tags.
>
> If there are any interest to repeat such experiments, I agree, we need
> this type of discussion with organizations that actively fly helicopters &
> planes within the affected areas.
>
> Private tasks could be setup to reserve the access to experienced
> contributors that have been trained to do such jobs.
>
> regard
>
> Pierre
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *De :* Denis Carriere <carriere.denis at gmail.com>
> *À :* "hot at openstreetmap.org" <hot at openstreetmap.org>
> *Cc :* Jack Reid <jreid at mountainchild.org>; Kathmandu Living Labs
> <kathmandulivinglabs at gmail.com>; Jennifer Bottrell <jbottrell at maf.org>
> *Envoyé le :* lundi 7 novembre 2016 10h29
> *Objet :* Re: [HOT] Surveying Helicopter Landing Zones (HLZs)
>
> During the Nepal earthquake relief effort, mapping HLZs (Helicopter
> Landing Zones) did not seem very coordinated, many factors need to be taken
> into consideration to properly define a HLZ. I can confirm that very little
> of the OpenStreetMap HLZ data was not used for any mission planning by any
> NGO, Government or UN aid during my time in Nepal.
>
> However, it would be great to open this type of discussion with
> organizations that actively fly helicopters & planes within these affected
> areas. Most of these organizations already have a their own HLZ data with
> tons of precise attributes associated with the particular HLZ & terrain
> data.
>
> Before any mapping happens, we should properly define a HLZ OSM Wiki page
> to clearly define how to map an HLZ.
>
> https://gist.github.com/aaronpdennis/b4ce2012749bb025b886 (Humanitarian
> purposed tags)
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Helicopter_landing_zone (Not defined)
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency:helipad (Not defined)
>
> *@MAF & @MountainChild @KLL: *It would be great to have your input on
> this topic.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> *~~~~~~*
> *Denis Carriere*
> *GIS Software & Systems Specialist*
>
> *Twitter: @DenisCarriere*
> *OSM: DenisCarriere*
> GitHub: DenisCarriere
> Email: Carriere.Denis at gmail.com
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 7:11 AM, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM <
> blake.girardot at hotosm.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Keith,
>
> I worked a lot on this issue during the Nepal 2015 response.
>
> What you propose sounds great. We had a lot of difficulty trying to do
> this via the tasking manager for several reasons.
>
> I would love to speak with you more about it, maybe we could chat via
> skype.
>
> Cheers,
> Blake
> ------------------------------ ----------------------
> Blake Girardot
> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
> President, HOT Board of Directors
> skype: jblakegirardot
> HOT Core Team Contact: info at hotosm.org
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 5:55 PM, Keith Darby <keithdar at usc.edu> wrote:
> > All:
> >
> > I am a retired Marine Corps Helicopter Pilot, and a current Masters
> Candidate in GIS Technologies at USC.
> >
> > I am working on my thesis, which is based on the premise that
> crowd-sourced geospatial information, if properly structured, could aid
> aircrews in surveying potential HLZs for disaster response.
> >
> > The work flow would be as follows:
> >
> > (1) Helicopter planners and aircrews would select potential HLZs in a
> disaster-affected region, using whatever mission planning GISystem at their
> disposal (normally baed on remote sensing data)
> >
> > (2) Those proposed HLZs would be uploaded to OSM.
> >
> > (3) Volunteers could select one of those HLZs and conduct a ground-truth
> survey, following a script (that I would develop).
> >
> > (4) Those surveys would be uploaded to OSM and validated.
> >
> > (5) the Helicopter mission planners and aircrews could use those surveys
> to select the best zones for disaster relief operations.
> >
> > I am looking at using the towns of Honokaa and Waimea on the northern
> end of the Big Island of Hawaii as my study area, as I live close by, and I
> have the local Community Emergency Response Team (volunteers) willing to
> support.
> >
> > Who do I need to talk to about getting HOT permission to conduct a
> limited objective study in this area?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Keith Darby
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