[HOT] OSM humanitarian mapping and its learning curve

Mike Thompson miketho16 at gmail.com
Wed Oct 19 20:41:53 UTC 2016


Tyler,

I just log my ideas/suggestions on github.

Mike

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Tyler Radford <tyler.radford at hotosm.org>
wrote:

> Phil, Robert, John, Mike, others have come up with some really great ideas
> pertaining to Tasking Manager improvements.
>
> Please log them or add to already existing requests here so we don't lose
> them! https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues
>
> One of the big visions for the future Tasking Manager is to better guides
> mappers having the right skills to the right job.
>
> Thanks for all the thoughtful and creative ideas.
>
> *Tyler Radford*
> Executive Director
> tyler.radford at hotosm.org
> @TylerSRadford
>
> *Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team*
> *Using OpenStreetMap for Humanitarian Response & Economic Development*
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>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Autre Planete <autreplanete at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks , Listened to you,Mike Thompson!
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Mike Thompson <miketho16 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Two situations that a new mapper may face:
>>> 1) Task area with nothing, or very little, mapped.
>>> This *should* be pretty easy. For example, in the case of buildings:
>>> draw building, square it, tag it as a building, don't draw two buildings
>>> over lapping each other.  However, despite verbal instruction,
>>> demonstrations, and written instructions, many get it wrong. My conclusion
>>> is human learning is more complex than many of us assume (hence the need
>>> for professional educators in our society). We may need to adjust our
>>> training (both online and in person) to be more effective. Just providing
>>> the information is not enough.
>>>
>>> 2) Task area has already been partially mapped, either outside of the
>>> tasking manager, as part of a previous project, or as part of the current
>>> project where another mapper didn't finish.
>>> Essentially we are asking the mapper in question to be a validator,
>>> because we expect that when he or she marks the task as done, they are
>>> saying that all of the mapping is done according to the instructions, not
>>> just the mapping he or she did. This can be very difficult for a new
>>> mapper, especially without the tools in JOSM. For example, if the
>>> instructions call for buildings to be square, they have to pan the entire
>>> task looking for buildings where is in JOSM, I put all buildings into the
>>> to do list and step through them (I could also search for ways tagged as
>>> buildings with less than a certain number of nodes and square them all at
>>> once).
>>>
>>> Ideas:
>>> * Have the tasking manager require a mapper to open (no way of knowing
>>> if they actually read them)  their messages before they can do checkout
>>> another tasks.
>>> * Have tasking manager forward messages to mapper's email account.
>>> * Require that a mapper at least visits the "instructions" tab before
>>> checking out a task.
>>> * Enhance project instructions to cover "edge cases". For example,
>>> should buildings under construction be mapped? Should existing features be
>>> spatially adjusted to the preferred imagery source, or should the imagery
>>> be adjusted to them?
>>> * Enhance project instructions to have links to examples (some of the
>>> Africa projects already do this).  "Not sure what a building under
>>> construction looks like? Click here for some examples." "Not sure how to
>>> adjust imagery offset in iD? Click here for instructions."
>>> * Mapathons should not be held without experienced mappers present who
>>> are willing to spend the entire event going from person to person to check
>>> on their work and answer any questions. We need many different people to
>>> make this work, and if someone just wants to be an organizer that is great,
>>> but they should ensure experienced mappers are in attendance.
>>> * Some sort of online way to quickly give feedback as soon as a save is
>>> made such that it is not necessary to wait until a task is marked as done.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>
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