[HOT] Buildings and HOT's reputation in OSM

Walker Bradley wbradley at worldbank.org
Wed Dec 13 14:24:51 UTC 2017

Dear All,

There have been two responses to mine about a building editor.  I apologize for the confusion and I do not advocate for a separate building, nor does anyone else.  I’ve moved my discussion to the appropriate slack channel.  Thank you for the links.



On Dec 13, 2017, at 06:03, Benoit Fournier <ben.fournier at gmail.com<mailto:ben.fournier at gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

I think people interested in the subject of a building tool in iD should read a few pages (if not already found and read):

- View of the maintener https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/528#issuecomment-346234741

- First coding attempt https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/pull/2699

- Ongoing effort https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/528#issuecomment-348757239

I don't think it is a good idea to create yet another editor only specialised in building. I very much favour the improvement on existing iD.

For what it worth, I would personally rank a few options here:

1. Building tool within ordinary iD + Custom iD presets for Tasking Manager projects https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/2656#issuecomment-192904617

2. Building tool within ordinary iD

3. Status quo

4. Forked iD editor

5. Yet another editor, building-only.

On a final but lengthy note, I must stress I do not think it is a good idea to further separate [Tasking Manager][HOT][humanitarian][projects]-style mapping and general OpenStreetMap mapping. I like general set of tools and documentation that can be used for all kinds of purposes.

LearnOSM and Tasking Manager are (in my view) good examples of projects that already benefit both HOT-centric mappers and general OSM contributors. I think we must draw a line when a proposition becomes too HOT-specific *and* at the expense of the general OSM project. For clarity: I would be opposed to the development of yet another editing tool or an over-emphasis on humanitarian mapping in generic modules of LearnOSM.

Please understand: I think HOT must be a sub-part of OSM, a part of the ecosystem, not a separate or oblivious organisation. I feel *this* is an important part about "HOT's reputation in OSM", as much as data quality.

And about people. The long-term objective of HOT, or Missing Maps, or partner NGOs, is (I hope...) *not* to gather an army of robot-like contributors (or "mechanical Turk"-like) that trace only buildings. It should be rather to introduce new people to OSM and turn some of them into good OSM citizens and contributors, ready for long-term mapping and validation, for local mapping & local empowerment, remote projects & data quality, group activations & crisis assistance.


-- althio aka Ben
previously active in LearnOSM and HOT Training Group

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