[HOT] Highway Tag Africa wiki

john whelan jwhelan0112 at gmail.com
Sat Jul 29 15:35:23 UTC 2017


>There was a suggestion that the editing software could have regional tag
exclusions. An example would be highway=living_street, a legally defined
type road that is not found in Africa.

There are 2,921 highways currently labelled living_street in Angola.  I
suspect the problem is people do not read the documentation but copy the
tags of another mapper and sometimes these are not as accurate as one might
like.

Cheerio John

On 29 July 2017 at 10:48, Vao Matua <vaomatua at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have shared my presentation from SOTM Africa here:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_2QVFnCIYvpQllEWnR2bWhTVnM
>
> There are quite a few photographs of different types of roads in Africa
> along with the aerial view.
>
> At the workshop in Kampala there was a good deal of discussion and
> frustration expressed regarding inconsistencies in descriptions and usage.
> There was not a consensus that additional tags were needed, however, there
> was general agreement that the Africa Highway Tagging Guide needed some
> clarification.
> There was a suggestion that the editing software could have regional tag
> exclusions. An example would be highway=living_street, a legally defined
> type road that is not found in Africa.
>
> I like the guidance Bjoern gave us below and the nice presentation. My
> only suggestion would be that metal roofs could be one factor in
> determining path/residential/unclassified. I have seen many remote villages
> only accessible by path that have some metal roofs.  I think the same could
> be true in Nepal?
>
> Here is a draft 1-page document for use in mapathons
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1s0QB-B1MKqsRs51jyDsCuldEXsJ_xK17k0-
> kRyKmxoo <https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_2QVFnCIYvpVW1xdHZ1RFF0dms>
> The order of tag listing is "upside down" emphasizing the most common
> routes first.  highway=service should probably be added and primary could
> be dropped.
>
> Let's continue this conversation.
>
> Regards,
>
> Emmor
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 4:41 AM, Bjoern Hassler <bjohas+mw at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> I think it would be really good to have a simple set of instructions for
>> people at mapathons. Sure, these can always be amended as per instructions,
>> but it would be nice to have a default set.
>>
>> In our "MM Intro" presentation, we came up with this slide
>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1xFDiMaWRj1RBlXzVYlKp
>> 06yE2Ja9Q5rmD9-bPDp1TWo/edit#slide=id.g2326c0c777_5_390
>> where we try to give practical guidance, and try to delineate the
>> features (i.e. give "negatives" rather than just the definition).
>>
>> The slide says:
>>
>>    - Can it be passed by a vehicle? → unclassified (or better) /
>>    residential / track (not path)
>>    - Does it connect areas where people live (running within and through
>>    villages)? → Unclassified or better (not residential / not track)
>>    - Does the road only run within a village or residential areas (not a
>>    through-road) → residential
>>    - Does the road only run to fields (agric. use)? → track
>>    - Is it not passable by car (4x4)? → path
>>    - Note: A metal roof arrives by vehicle → roads to houses with metal
>>    roofs are unclassified or residential (not path).
>>
>> (The set is aimed at cases where M/trunk/1/2/3iary is already in
>> existence, as is often the case.)
>>
>> I do think that a set like this will help new mappers with decision
>> making.
>>
>> What do people think? I've copied it here https://wiki.openstreetma
>> p.org/wiki/Talk:Highway_Tag_Africa#Mailing_list in case people want to
>> edit.
>>
>> Bjoern
>>
>> On 29 July 2017 at 12:09, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Looking at the wiki changes it looks like mainly clarifications I tend
>>> to not use tags higher than tertiary as I think they are best left to local
>>> knowledge or someone with more specialised knowledge.
>>>
>>> Many Thanks
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On 28 July 2017 at 23:25, Vao Matua <vaomatua at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I led the discussion at the Highway Tagging workshop on the last day of
>>>> SOTM Africa.
>>>> There was quite a bit of discussion and agreement that the existing
>>>> tagging can be frustrating, however, we did not generate any new proposals
>>>> for additional tags.
>>>> We did agree on some changes to the Africa Highway Tagging Guide
>>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa> which has now
>>>> been updated to reflect not only Functional Class but also Construction
>>>> class and width.
>>>> I am in the process of preparing a one page reference guide for use in
>>>> carto-parties and mapathons and by new mappers.
>>>>
>>>> General changes or clarifications:
>>>> A residential road serves people who live adjacent to it.
>>>> An unclassified road connects settlements and collects traffic from
>>>> residential roads, tracks, and paths
>>>> A track allows people to access agriculture areas, but not connect to a
>>>> settlement
>>>> A path can function like an unclassified highway, but is restricted to
>>>> foot traffic or 2 wheeled vehicles
>>>> Highway = tertiary or secondary may be paved, but not by default.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if you have questions or suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> Emmor
>>>> (Palolo)
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 4:38 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I seem to recall some one posting recently that following discussion
>>>>> at the SOTM Africa in Uganda 2017 some changes had been made to the wiki.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could some one highlight these.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks John
>>>>>
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