[HOT] Mapswipe - whats happening with the data?

Pete Masters pedrito1414 at googlemail.com
Sun Mar 26 16:52:17 UTC 2017


Hey John, it's not just that its quicker. It is also that different people
can engage with the task. It's hard to contribute if you have a few minutes
through the tasking manager. But you can through MapSwipe. It's also near
impossible to contribute via mobile or on the go. Again MapSwipe makes this
possible.

Even if it was as quick to do the scanning through JOSM, we are able to get
a whole new group of people involved in the workflow.

Cheers,

Pete

On 26 Mar 2017 17:27, "Jo" <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Both possibilities exist. You can 'reserve' a bunch of tile to work on
> while off line, or you can work online.
>
> It's easy to install it and play with it.
>
> Polyglot
>
> 2017-03-26 18:23 GMT+02:00 john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>:
>
>> So what you're saying is it can scan about as fast as JOSM using
>> <crtl><down arrow>.  Does it require an online connection or can it
>> precharge so someone can do it on the bus and upload the results when it
>> gets near WiFi?
>>
>> Thanks John
>>
>> On 26 March 2017 at 12:05, Pete Masters <pedrito1414 at googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all, late to the party, but here are my two cents...
>>>
>>> MapSwipe, anecdotally for now, does save mappers' time. In an area where
>>> little OSM data exists, it can target mappers' efforts where people (or
>>> roads or rivers) exist. In the kind of rural landscapes we deal with a lot
>>> in MSF areas of interest, this cuts down the amount of time spent
>>> 'scanning' for stuff to map significantly. And, MapSwipe users can get
>>> through a large area super fast.
>>>
>>> In the Sierra Leone projects we used it slightly differently. We knew
>>> that Kenema district had been partly mapped through several other
>>> initiatives (Ebola mapping  and the American Red Cross West Africa project
>>> for example). We wanted comprehensive data in OSM, so we tasked the area in
>>> MapSwipe and cross referenced the results with existing OSM data. Where
>>> MapSwipers said 'yes, there is a building' but none existed in OSM the area
>>> would be tasked for mapping. Where MapSwipers said 'yes, there is a
>>> building' and building data existed in OSM, we discounted the area from the
>>> tasking. Meaning that mappers were applying affords only where there were
>>> gaps in the data.
>>>
>>> I hope that is of interest. Couple of related points...
>>>
>>> Each area is classified by three different users in MapSwipe, not four.
>>>
>>> Paul Stewart wrote up the process for using Mapswipe to deduplicate
>>> mapping efforts through the tasking manager
>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pjstewart1984/diary/40710
>>>
>>> Disastermappers write here about how to access MapSwipe data and how
>>> they process it https://disastermappers.wordpr
>>> ess.com/2016/11/16/integrating-mapswipe-and-hot-tasking-mana
>>> ger-first-task-online/
>>>
>>> HOT Summit presentation on MapSwipe and pybossa
>>> https://youtu.be/pRZ_mWn0Lmc
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Pete
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26 Mar 2017 15:47, "Jo" <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's definitely useful to save actual mapper's time. For validation I'm
>>>> not sure it would be a big help.
>>>>
>>>> Op 26 mrt. 2017 3:12 p.m. schreef "john whelan" <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com
>>>> >:
>>>>
>>>>> Would we be better ahead by using something like mapswipe to
>>>>> validate?  If a tile is OK there is no need to add to the map from the
>>>>> tool.  If three mappers tick it then I would say its good to go.
>>>>>
>>>>> The current system we use four mappers to mapswipe, then a
>>>>> conventional mapper to map followed by a validator.  Six passes to get a
>>>>> validated tile.  The other way would give you one in four passes three of
>>>>> which would be on smartphones.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheerio John
>>>>>
>>>>> On 26 March 2017 at 09:01, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> But does it address the concern about how much effort is expended
>>>>>> compared to the value added?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheerio John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 26 March 2017 at 08:44, Ralf Stephan <gtrwst9 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Search is your friend. Searching for Mapswipe yields eg
>>>>>>> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2521
>>>>>>> where clearly the tiles are preselected. Also the description: "The
>>>>>>> data are prepared by MapSwipe"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 2:40 PM john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I seem to recall the same area is mapswiped by four different
>>>>>>>> people before a mapper maps it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Other than the size of the tile or which area to give priority to I
>>>>>>>> think the advantage is that people can do it anywhere on a smartphone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would hesitate to say if it is worth doing or not.  In future
>>>>>>>> there might be a way to bring something into OSM via a review process.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheerio John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 26 March 2017 at 08:22, Hakuch <hakuch at posteo.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 26.03.2017 14:13, john whelan wrote:
>>>>>>>> > My understanding is that mapswipe is only used to identify where
>>>>>>>> to map.
>>>>>>>> > Not to contribute to the map.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Cheerio John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> of course there is no data transmitted to OSM, but how is the data
>>>>>>>> (I
>>>>>>>> mean, marked tiles) used after I transmitted it? How much is it
>>>>>>>> worth to
>>>>>>>> do that mapswiping?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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