[HOT] TM3 and validation

Blake Girardot HOT/OSM blake.girardot at hotosm.org
Sat Oct 21 19:32:53 UTC 2017

Hi John,

If you could explain just a bit more about why the most recently
mapped task is your main priority (sometimes)?

I do not understand.

I understand it has something to do with someone who mapped 3 months
ago, we now also send emails so time passed since they last mapped is
much much less of an issue (Martin is going to maybe look at redoing
his analysis).

We actually started off with what you are asking for, but feedback
from users was they were much more interested in getting to the newest
mappers the fastest, which is what we ended up going with.

Maybe it is easy to add back in, but that table is already pretty crowded.


On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 2:37 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've found what you are doing on the video, your accent is fine you know of
> course that people studying English like what it is spoke years ago travel
> to parts of the US to record the Americans as their language has been
> isolated for many years so it much closer to English what was spoke when
> their families emigrated.
> Yes I can pick out a user who registered ten minutes ago and the tiles they
> mapped but that isn't what I'm after.  I'm after the most recently mapped
> tile and that's the one that is the most valuable to give feedback on.
> By the way I'm using cut and paste on the name displayed below to give
> feedback with the @ sign or <Crtl>i to grab the username in JOSM, its faster
> than typing it in as you were doing.  Some mappers are naughty and do not
> completely map a tile, but their mapping still requires feedback even if
> someone else finishes it off.
> Thanks
> Cheerio John
> On 21 October 2017 at 14:20, Blake Girardot <bgirardot at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi John,
>> Thank you very much for your feedback on the TM3, this and the
>> previous. And thank you for putting them in GitHub, that is really the
>> best place for them.
>> The TM3 has better than the most recently mapped task.
>> The most recently mapped task tells you nothing about the skill level
>> or the newness of the mapper. It could have been completed by me, 7+
>> years in OSM.
>> What I really want is to find when I am validating is the newest
>> mapper who someone has not already given feedback.
>> No point in me giving a 2 hour old user feedback if you got one of
>> their tasks 5 mins ago.
>> That is what you can see in the Tasking Manager 3.
>> I know my accent bugs you, so I made a silent video of how I use the
>> TM3 to get the newest mappers feedback as fast as possible:
>> https://youtu.be/BX8rzi2NqQY
>> Let me know what you think of the workflow in the video if you would
>> please.
>> Respectfully,
>> blake
>> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 11:06 AM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Typically when I validate I validate the most recently mapped tiles
>> > first
>> > working on the principle that the faster feedback the more likely it is
>> > to
>> > be effective.
>> >
>> > If someone has already changed their habits telling them that two
>> > villages
>> > two kilometers apart are probably not connected by a primary highway but
>> > by
>> > a minor road three months after they have mapped is a waste of time.
>> >
>> > I can't see how to do this in TM3.  I need a link to the tile.
>> >
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