[HOT] OSM Foundation member fees changing

[Pete Masters]

Thanks Philippe for the thoughts! Can you make sure that you also share
with mwg at openstreetmap.org or post to the OSMF talk list [1]
<https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk>. Conversation ongoing
in both places :)

Pete

[1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 1:10 AM Philippe Verdy <verdyp at gmail.com> wrote:

> For those that are unemployed, paying 15 pounds once is much money,
> including in "rich" countries because of higher general prices for
> life with the low incomes (ven with social benefits). Also lot of
> people can't pay online with their debit card (and they have
> difficulties to spare that money without having it seized for some
> reasons, or because they would have their benefits reduced if they
> keep that money unused in their bank account). Those people have only
> cash (bills/coins or electronic cash) for very short periods and can
> only pay small amounts (the rest of the time they have no money at
> all, everything is taken for essential life support).
>
> One solution would be to pay in fractioned way, by micropayments, e.g.
> by SMS fees (one or two SMS every month at ~0.75€ each, and once you
> reach 20 SMS, you've paid the yearly bill; and each SMS before that
> will count for a ratio of period, so if you can pay only 10 SMS since
> the first one in the 1-year period, you get rights for 6 months since
> that first paid SMS). They would be able to choose when to pay these
> micropayments
>
> Micropayments would satisfy those that have the most time to
> contribute and work the most (they give in fact what is most
> precious), but can't decide because they have no right and can't pay
> the membership right.
>
> However micropayments may cause significant admin costs for OSM or
> HOT; I wonder if there are ways to manage micropayment via efficient
> online services (that would manage the transactions and identity of
> payers), something that would be also useful for general life in
> developing countries (may be some microbank organisation?), with also
> a strict respect of privacy.
>
> Le ven. 3 avr. 2020 à 23:05, Pete Masters via HOT
> <hot at openstreetmap.org> a écrit :
> >
> > Hi all, don't know if you have seen but the OpenStreetMap Foundation
> have been discussing membership fees. Some interesting new proposals have
> been voted on recently...
> >
> >
> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Group_Minutes/MWG_2020-01-19#implementation_of_new_Fee_waiver_for_mappers.2Fcontributors
> >
> > This is important because the OSMF members vote for the board and the
> board are influential in defining / guiding the future of OpenStreetMap,
> which we all know and love.
> >
> > This is different to HOT membership as to be a member for OSMF you had
> to pay £15 (sterling) or apply for an exemption on an individual basis
> (whereas for HOT, you need to be nominated). This fee was regardless of
> whether £15 was a lot of money or not much money wherever you were from.
> The new rules look to reward contribution to the OSM project, not just
> whether you can spare the cash.
> >
> > The OSMF membership working group are looking for feedback on the
> proposals. You can either email them directly at mwg at openstreetmap.org or
> post to the OSMF talk list [1].
> >
> > I think the proposals are good and worth engaging with...
> >
> > Hope you are all safe and well in these crazy times!
> >
> > Pete
> >
> > [1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk
> >
> >
> >
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