<div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>Sorry, was out during TWG meeting but read the discussion on my computer once back. SO regarding LearnOSM translation, here are my last feedbacks, pointing out especially the need of solving the import of images (basically screenshots with the local languages).</div>

<div><br></div><div>Sincerely,</div><div><br></div><div>Severin</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Severin MENARD <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:severin.menard@gmail.com" target="_blank">severin.menard@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks for the awesome feedback Severin. </span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><div>You are welcome, as I asked for such a guide, the minimum I could was to review it. And it is really well done. Just the technical things I mentionned to be set </div>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I like “Translation Lead” and agree that a pull request shouldn’t be necessary. The less a Translator is forced to learn about Github, the more likely this
 is to be successful.</span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><div>It is also my opinion</div><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">


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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I agree that the issue tracker is pretty straightforward, thanks to its resemblance to a traditional forum. It might be worth packaging some high level guidance
 on what the issue tracker is for and how to use it (e.g. documenting thoroughly any problems encountered, providing the OS, etc.)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I think image naming conventions would be very helpful. Otherwise we’re setting ourselves up for pain down the line. No idea about the upload button.</span></p>


</div></div></blockquote></div><div>Naming conventions or simply the same name within a Language folder, depending on what is te most easy to set technically. Yes the upload button would be good </div><div><div class="h5">

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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Mikel Maron [mailto:<a href="mailto:mikel_maron@yahoo.com" target="_blank">mikel_maron@yahoo.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Severin MENARD; <a href="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">hot@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Kunce, Dale; Joseph, Daniel B.<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [HOT] LearnOSM translators, we have guides<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>Thanks Severin for looking through and giving feedback!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.5pt">> - it says </span><span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;color:#333333">Sign up and confirm your account, </span></span><span><span style="font-size:12.5pt;color:#333333">then </span></span><span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;color:#333333">You
 won't need to do anything else on the GitHub website </span></span><span><span style="font-size:12.5pt;color:#333333">but </span></span><span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;color:#333333">From
 the list of projects on the 'Explore Projects' page click on the </span></span><span style="font-size:12.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333">> 'learnosm' folder to open it; </span></span><span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333">If
 you don't see it, ask the GitHubber team member if they have added you as a collaborator. </span></span><span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333">So it is supposed to be done by
 email and not through GitHub </span></span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>Yes, communication is not necessarily through github with the 'GitHubber' (we really need to find a better name for this role ... maybe just "Translation Lead"). The Translator certainly
 won't need to do a pull request. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>However I guess we could consider some coordination through the Issue tracker on github, which I consider relatively usable. Thoughts?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333">- </span><span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;color:#333333">The image below shows
 image elements; </span></span><span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;color:#333333">You should not change images or links when translating.</span></span><span><span style="color:#333333"> If we can
 stay with the same names, w</span></span><span><span style="color:#333333">e definitely have to make new images </span></span><span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span><span style="color:#333333">> as they show by default screenshots of the English interface. How do we process?</span></span><span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>Yes, agreed, there needs to be a way for translators to provide translated images. Will the upload button in <a href="http://prose.io" target="_blank">prose.io</a> upload to the "images" directory? Do we need to specify some kind of
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>-Mikel<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>* Mikel Maron * <a href="tel:%2B14152835207" value="+14152835207" target="_blank">+14152835207</a> @mikel s:mikelmaron<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>To:</b> "<a href="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">hot@openstreetmap.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">hot@openstreetmap.org</a>>
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<b>Cc:</b> "Kunce, Dale" <<a href="mailto:dale.kunce@redcross.org" target="_blank">dale.kunce@redcross.org</a>>;
<a href="mailto:daniel.joseph@redcross.org" target="_blank">daniel.joseph@redcross.org</a> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 10, 2013 8:27 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [HOT] LearnOSM translators, we have guides</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>I take the opportunity of being in the HOT House to go back to the LearnOSM translation and review the guide kindly written by Daniel:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span><a href="https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/Guides/blob/master/TranslationWorkflow_LearnOSM/translatorWorkflow.md" target="_blank">https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/Guides/blob/master/TranslationWorkflow_LearnOSM/translatorWorkflow.md</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>



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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>Thank you very much for this, it is really clear. Two remarks:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>- it says </span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333">Sign up and confirm your account,
</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333">then </span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333">You won't need to do anything else on the GitHub website
</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333">but </span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333">From the list of projects on the 'Explore Projects' page click on the 'learnosm' folder to open
 it; If you don't see it, ask the GitHubber team member if they have added you as a collaborator.
</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333">So it is supposed to be done by email and not through GitHub pull request right?</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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 images or links when translating.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333"> If we can stay with the same names, we definitely have to make new images as they show by default screenshots of the English interface. How do we process?</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></p>



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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 9:49 AM, <<a href="mailto:hot-request@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">hot-request@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>



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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 17:25:40 -0700 (PDT)<br>
From: Mikel Maron <<a href="mailto:mikel_maron@yahoo.com" target="_blank">mikel_maron@yahoo.com</a>><br>
To: "<a href="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">hot@openstreetmap.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">hot@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
Cc: "\"Kunce, Dale\"" <<a href="mailto:dale.kunce@redcross.org" target="_blank">dale.kunce@redcross.org</a>>, "Daniel B. Joseph"<br>
        <<a href="mailto:daniel.joseph@redcross.org" target="_blank">daniel.joseph@redcross.org</a>><br>
Subject: [HOT] LearnOSM translators, we have guides<br>
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Hi<br>
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We've been working to better document the process of translating LearnOSM in gitpages/<a href="http://prose.io/" target="_blank">prose.io</a>, as well as uncovering some needs for management of LearnOSM. The goal is have a well managed and well understood translation
 process. As a first step,?Daniel Joseph from the American Red Cross (thank you!) has put together a draft documentation of the workflow, as well as capture a few recommendations for the process.?<br>
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We'd appreciated anyone interested to review the docs, and provide constructive feedback ... the most helpful formulated as issues and pull requests.?<br>
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<a href="https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/Guides/tree/master/TranslationWorkflow_LearnOSM" target="_blank">https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/Guides/tree/master/TranslationWorkflow_LearnOSM</a><br>
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Cheers, and thanks again Daniel.<br>
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Mikel<br>
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