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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>There is a lot of ‘left-overs’ at the bottom that could be erased – I was leaving it to those who first submitted the comments to make sure they felt we have covered them in the HOT Code and Guide (<a href="https://hackpad.com/HOT-Guide-f0gDt7wBtu0">https://hackpad.com/HOT-Guide-f0gDt7wBtu0</a> ).  I like the inline commenting on hackpad for discussion purposes, and think once we have a draft amendment we can move that to the wiki for review, vote, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>=Russ<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Mikel Maron [mailto:mikel_maron@yahoo.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 14, 2014 10:10 AM<br><b>To:</b> Jaakko Helleranta.com; Russell Deffner<br><b>Cc:</b> Severin Menard; HOT@OSM (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team)<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [HOT] Nominations for HOT Chair of the voting members and Board are open<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks Jaakko. I had forgotten about that hackpad. Given that it contains a lot of other comments besides bylaws issues, can we move the relevant pieces into the wiki? <a href="https://hackpad.com/HOT-Bylaws-Amendments-D5EU34qgHYu">https://hackpad.com/HOT-Bylaws-Amendments-D5EU34qgHYu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>-Mikel<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On Friday, February 14, 2014 11:50 AM, Jaakko Helleranta.com <<a href="mailto:jaakko@helleranta.com">jaakko@helleranta.com</a>> wrote:</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:3.75pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div id=yiv9227818711><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>We definitely need to make this all work together. Various smaller and larger issues need to be adjusted in the bylaws. Code needs to be referred to in them (IMO). And we can't just tackle one thing at a time. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>I don't mind which the place is (wiki or Hackpad). Hackpad is more conversational but it's not open source.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>But let's this thing sorted out this year.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>For the board size: The various organizations I've been involved with have had both ways without problems: fixed board size and varying. I think in the case of the varying size it's been usually an item on the annual meeting's list to (officially) decide on the board size that year albeit it's been a custom to go with the size that the board is "suggesting". Sometimes this might be also left for a dedicated elections committee to suggest for the annual meeting. And sometimes there's just been a custom to create a consensus about the board size in "unofficial discussions".<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>What ever it is it might be good to have a policy approved by the voting members. I don't see why we couldn't decide on such policy/custom as a simple decision point on the annual meeting list.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>-Jaakko<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:jaakko@helleranta.com" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1155CC'>jaakko@helleranta.com</span></a></span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> * Skype: jhelleranta * Mobile: </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1155CC'>+505-8845-3391</span></span></span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> (Nicaragua) * Voice(mail) / SMS / What's app: +1-202-730-9778 * </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://about.me/jaakkoh" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1155CC'>http://about.me/jaakkoh</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Russell Deffner <<a href="mailto:russell.deffner@hotosm.org" target="_blank">russell.deffner@hotosm.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=yiv9227818711yqt98007><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Mikel, we had previously been working here: <a href="https://hackpad.com/HOT-Bylaws-Amendments-D5EU34qgHYu" target="_blank">https://hackpad.com/HOT-Bylaws-Amendments-D5EU34qgHYu</a> - lots of good stuff on these topics that was consolidated from all our other google docs, etc.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>If you’d like help moving everything to the wiki, we can do that; but it may be easier to continue using the hackpad.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>=Russ</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> Mikel Maron [mailto:<a href="mailto:mikel_maron@yahoo.com" target="_blank">mikel_maron@yahoo.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 14, 2014 9:01 AM<br><b>To:</b> Severin Menard; <a href="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">hot@openstreetmap.org</a></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [HOT] Nominations for HOT Chair of the voting members and Board are open<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>> Thanks for pointing out these unclear aspects in the bylaws, would be good to modify them so that there is no confusion. </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Yes, definitely, one of the top priorities for this year will be to address the gaps in the bylaws, to clarify and make them more in line for the kind of organization we wish HOT to be. The Membership Code process and other discussions have brought many items to the surface.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>As a start, let's begin by documenting issues in the Bylaws. I've started this wiki page, with some description, and added a single starting issue as a template. Please contribute here!</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/U.S._Bylaws/2014_Bylaws_Review" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/U.S._Bylaws/2014_Bylaws_Review</a></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Cheers</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Mikel</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>* Mikel Maron * <span class=MsoHyperlink>+14152835207</span> @mikel s:mikelmaron</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br>_______________________________________________<br>HOT mailing list<br><a href="mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">HOT@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> 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