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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Never mind, think I answered my own question; so my opinion – if the idea is that anyone can ‘report a bug’ they find on any OSM tool/platform to the HOT volunteers coordinating the response who then triage and report to the proper place – that is not going to happen, sorry.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>=Russ<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Russell Deffner [mailto:Russell.Deffner@hotosm.org] <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 23, 2015 10:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Clifford Snow'; 'Charlotte Wolter'<br><b>Cc:</b> 'HOT'<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [HOT] step by step recipe for iD bug reporting<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>How would the report then get to the proper place?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>=Russ<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Clifford Snow [<a href="mailto:clifford@snowandsnow.us">mailto:clifford@snowandsnow.us</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 23, 2015 8:16 PM<br><b>To:</b> Charlotte Wolter<br><b>Cc:</b> HOT<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [HOT] step by step recipe for iD bug reporting<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Charlotte Wolter <<a href="mailto:techlady@techlady.com" target="_blank">techlady@techlady.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>      Right. It should be clarified.<br>         "Problem with iD or JSOM"<br>        As for what else is needed, that is up to those who know how to fix either. Maybe the button above should lead to two choices: "iD" or "JOSM," at which point the appropriate questionnaire appears.<br>        Does JOSM include a way to report issues? To my knowledge, iD does not. Clearly they need to be separate.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>JOSM bugs are reported on the <a href="http://josm.openstreetmap.de" target="_blank">josm.openstreetmap.de</a> website. One the main JOSM page are the instructions: <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-bottom:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in'><h2><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;letter-spacing:-.2pt'>Found a bug? | Have an idea? | Make a suggestion?<o:p></o:p></span></h2></div></div></blockquote><div><ul type=disc><ul type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Please report any bug found: Create a <a href="http://josm.openstreetmap.de/newticket" target="_blank"><span style='color:#BB0000;text-decoration:none'>new ticket</span></a> using the <a href="http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Action/ReportBug" target="_blank"><span style='color:#BB0000;text-decoration:none'>Report Bug</span></a> entry in the main menu <a href="http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Menu/Help" target="_blank"><span style='color:#BB0000;text-decoration:none'>Help</span></a>. Alternatively, the same function is available under <a href="http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Action/About" target="_blank"><span style='color:#BB0000;text-decoration:none'>About</span></a> and <a href="http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Action/ShowStatusReport" target="_blank"><span style='color:#BB0000;text-decoration:none'>Show status report</span></a>.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Discuss ideas and suggestions also in the <a href="http://josm.openstreetmap.de/newticket" target="_blank"><span style='color:#BB0000;text-decoration:none'>bug tracker</span></a>, on the <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#BB0000;text-decoration:none'>​</span><span style='color:#BB0000;text-decoration:none'>josm-dev</span></a> mailing list, or on the </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>​</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>#josm IRC channel.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul><p class=MsoNormal>JOSM is sold as an advanced editor which might give the impress that someone "steps up" from iD to JSOM. From what I've seen on HOT, for some tasks it is the preferred editor which means that new mappers are using JOSM. If they come from an open source, ie linux, background I don't see any real roadblocks to creating bug reports. But for the vast majority it is somewhat intimidating. One solution is to report the bug on the Tasking Manager for the task owner to verify. If it is a bug, the task owner reports the bug on the josm website. That allows the owner to triage the reports to make sure that they weed out user/training issues.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I'm inclined to suggest modifying the TM interface to include these issues. What does everyone else think?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Clifford<br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>@osm_seattle<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us" target="_blank">osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>