<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456883763200_8676" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456883763200_8802">The OSMTM code is open source, and many instances are running around the world, and that's great. The instance running at </span><a href="http://tasks.hotosm.org/" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456883763200_8773">http://tasks.hotosm.org/</a> is managed by HOT's activation working group. The policies are fairly flexible about what's posted there, and project managers are welcome to discuss and create projects there. What does need careful consideration are tasks created for an active HOT activation, and the priority given these tasks. The feasibility and appropriateness of the damage assessment task for Fiji hasn't yet been discussed at all in the AWG.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456883763200_8676" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456883763200_8676" dir="ltr">-Mikel</div><div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456883763200_8714"> </div><div class="signature" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456883763200_8685">* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron</div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 6:47 AM, Rod Bera <rod@goarem.org> wrote:<br></font></div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container">Hi Mikel,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">(not discussing here the pertinence of task #1575).<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I already gave my views on the OSMF list prior to your election to the<br clear="none">board but this episode is an illustration of what we should not see in OSM.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I wish to emphasise that OSM has nothing to do with HOT's Activation<br clear="none">Working Group and not OSM tool should be controlled by it.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">therefore what you call OSMTM (OPENSTREETMAP Tasking manager) is not OPEN.<br clear="none">Therefore NOT OPENSTREETMAP.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Please stop claiming so.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">... unless the Tasking Manager (re)becomes truly open. the TM was<br clear="none">thought as a common for OSM, and having it the thing of a smaller group<br clear="none"> (which decides who can propose a task and postpone/archive/veto tasks)<br clear="none">is a real problem.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Otherwise, facing censorship on the TM there are chances that some<br clear="none">dedicated mappers favour the emergence of an alternative TM (or worse,<br clear="none">alternative TMs), which would raise other issues (possible concurrent<br clear="none">tasks on the same regions, etc) unless we develop indexing mechanisms<br clear="none">(like cross-harvesting INSPIRE catalogues).<br clear="none"><br clear="none">This issue should be discussed within OSMF to find the best way to<br clear="none">transfer the governance of a self claimed OSM tool (which right now it<br clear="none">is not) back to the OSM community.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Thanks<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Rod<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">On 02/03/16 02:07, Mikel Maron wrote:<br clear="none">> Hello<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> This project hasn't been raised or discussed within the AWG, and raises<br clear="none">> a number of issues that require careful consideration. For the time<br clear="none">> being in Fiji, we're focusing on updating the base map only, and this<br clear="none">> particular OSMTM project has been archived.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Thanks<br clear="none">> -Mikel<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 6:28 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton<br clear="none">> <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jguilhem@gmail.com" href="mailto:jguilhem@gmail.com">jguilhem@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Dear All,<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Stronger cyclones are likely to become more frequent with climate<br clear="none">> change. Categorie 5 cyclone Winston severely hit Fiji on Feb 20th. A<br clear="none">> state of natural disaster was declared for 30 days. Ten days later, the<br clear="none">> death toll is 43, at least, and more than 50,000 persons who have lost<br clear="none">> their homes are still living in evacuation centers.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Improving recovery capabilities is part of Disaster Risk Reduction<br clear="none">> (DRR). Assessing the damage and obtaining accurate and actionable<br clear="none">> information as quickly as possible is critical. Ziad Al Achkar, Isaac L.<br clear="none">> Baker and Nathaniel A. Raymond, of the Signal Program on Human Security<br clear="none">> and Technology at the Harvard Humanitarian Initiative (HHI) published<br clear="none">> these last days a study that describes a new methodology to standardize<br clear="none">> remote assessments of wind disaster damage, from satellite, aerial or<br clear="none">> drone imagery, named the “BAR methodology”, with a foreword by Ray<br clear="none">> Shirkodai, Executive Director of the Pacific Disaster Center, “Assessing<br clear="none">> Wind Disaster Damage To Structures”<br clear="none">> <<a shape="rect" href="http://hhi.harvard.edu/publications/satellite-imagery-interpretation-guide-assessing-wind-disaster-damage-structures" target="_blank">http://hhi.harvard.edu/publications/satellite-imagery-interpretation-guide-assessing-wind-disaster-damage-structures</a>><br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> This methodology takes into account structure categories visible in the<br clear="none">> imagery, sorted in “A) Light strength structures (the most vulnerable);<br clear="none">> B) Medium strength structures (moderately vulnerable); and C) Heavy<br clear="none">> strength structures (usually the least vulnerable).”<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Each structure is also assigned a damage scale, which is as follows: “0<br clear="none">> = no visible damage to the structure; 1 = visible partial roof damage; 2<br clear="none">> = the roof has suffered significant damage or is completely off, but the<br clear="none">> walls remain standing; and 3 = the walls and the roofs are down and the<br clear="none">> structure integrity is completely compromised.”<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> The goal of this project is to adapt the BAR methodology to the<br clear="none">> OpenStreetMap framework, using also information available online from<br clear="none">> social media, such as geo-localizable photos, and apply it to the town<br clear="none">> of Ba, in Western Fiji, to produce detailed open geodata that will<br clear="none">> hopefully be useful to the Fijian Government to manage the aftermath of<br clear="none">> this disaster, and also to experiment and refine this methodology as<br clear="none">> needed for future disasters.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> If you are already an experienced OSM mapper, and interested in learning<br clear="none">> how to contribute to this, please have a look at this project:<br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1575" target="_blank">http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1575</a><br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Read the instructions carefully, and especially the BAR study linked<br clear="none">> above.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> The adaptation of this method builds on previous attempts in the HOT<br clear="none">> community, in particular regarding the tags used. As it is new, please<br clear="none">> know that you are really welcome to ask any question you may have, on<br clear="none">> all the channels available, especially in case of uncertainties you may<br clear="none">> face, if you feel that you are qualified for this project and want to<br clear="none">> give it a try.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> The same method could also be used for other areas, including where<br clear="none">> aerial photos are available, and more generally where geo-localizable<br clear="none">> photos from social media are available.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Thank you very much.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Best wishes,<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Jean-Guilhem<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> _______________________________________________<br clear="none">> HOT mailing list<br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org" href="mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org">HOT@openstreetmap.org</a> <mailto:<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org" href="mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org">HOT@openstreetmap.org</a>><br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot</a><br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> _______________________________________________<br clear="none">> HOT mailing list<br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org" href="mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org">HOT@openstreetmap.org</a><br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot</a><br clear="none">> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">-- <br clear="none">Rod Béra, MCF Géomatique / Lecturer, Geomatics<br clear="none"> et SIG pour l'Environnement / and Environmental GIS<br clear="none">Agrocampus-Ouest|65 r.Saint-Brieuc|CS84215|35042 Rennes cedex|France<br clear="none">+33 (0) 223 48 5553 - <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:roderic.bera@agrocampus-ouest.fr" href="mailto:roderic.bera@agrocampus-ouest.fr">roderic.bera@agrocampus-ouest.fr</a><div class="yqt2279927381" id="yqtfd20832"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">HOT mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org" href="mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org">HOT@openstreetmap.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot</a><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </blockquote> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>