<div dir="ltr">I wonder if the choice (in domain names) of non standard prefix for continental areas before the country code really helps making the instances per country really accessible: "ca-ni.*" for example should just be "ni.*", or "as-lk.*" should just be "lk.*", there's no need to use a continental area prefix, but if you need some prefix, it should be the same for all countries (e.g. "cc-ni.* for Nicaragua, and "cc-lk" for Sri Lanka), or you could use submains of a common generic domain (e.g. "ni.cc.*" and "lk.cc.*").<div><br></div><div>The classification of countries per continent or continental is problematic when they have parts covering multiple continental areas (e.g. France, UK, US, Turkey, Cyprus, Russia, Venezuela): there's no well defined mapping of countries to a single continental area even for those that are encoded in ISO 3166-1 (with also dependant territories having a secondary ISO 3166-1 code and sevral aliases allocated). Even for America this is quite complex: is the Caribbean only part of North America, what to do about Venezuelan dependencies in the Antillas ?). So to use these instances we would then need to maintain custom mappings in other tools (including on the OSM wiki that attempts to map relevant Taginfo instances, for now by mapping some per country instances from languages).</div><div><br></div><div>How do you intend to support translations and localisation/adaptation (e.g. Bidi layout, recommended minimum font size, and required minimum line-height per script) on these per-country Taginfo instances, in countries that have multiple languages (e.g. Switzerland, Belgium, Morocco or India) ?</div><div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-03-20 18:30 GMT+01:00 Imre Samu <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pella.samu@gmail.com" target="_blank">pella.samu@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>TLDR: I am working on a "dockerization of Taginfo" for every country and now I can show you a Proof of Concepts of my idea,<br>and if you have time please test, give a feedback.<br>And I am searching sponsors/funds/microgrants/* for hosting/dev if this project is useful.<br>Temporary link ( for the next 2 week ) <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span> </span><a href="http://taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://taginfo-dev.<wbr>opengeodata.hu/</a></span><br>Source code / issues / problems / latest info => <a href="https://github.com/taginfo/dockerized-taginfo" target="_blank">https://github.com/taginfo/<wbr>dockerized-taginfo</a><br><br>========<br><br>I am believing that a customized local taginfo can help on HOT's disaster preparedness<br><br>The global taginfo (<a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/" target="_blank">https://taginfo.<wbr>openstreetmap.org/</a> ) is a very good tool for find tagging trends, <br>but shows all problems in the OSM - and this is similar to the "diffusion of responsibility", too many problems.</div><div>The local taginfo show only the local data and so much easy to detect tagging problems, bad imports, and other data quality issues.</div><div>But this is my theory, no proof yet. And there are more dead taginfo projects than living, just see: <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Taginfo/Sites" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Taginfo/Sites</a> </div><div><br></div><div>So I have started an experiment and created a program to generate a local taginfo server configuration for every area ( ~ 4000 ) </div><div>And now I can run ~100 mini taginfo server on a cheap 15GB Cloud server. ( but this is only a Proof of Concept, more work need )</div><div><br></div><div>So If somebody wants to help on testing or just interested your area : </div><div><div>the (temporary) links here:</div><div><a href="http://taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/africa/" target="_blank">http://taginfo-dev.<wbr>opengeodata.hu/africa/</a> ( every African country ! )<br><a href="http://taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/central-america/" target="_blank">http://taginfo-dev.<wbr>opengeodata.hu/central-<wbr>america/</a> ( every Central-America country )<br></div><div>( Important: temporary links for the next 2 weeks! daily refresh only for Africa and Central-America )<br></div><div><br></div><div>If you need an extra country for testing - write me.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>For example:<br><br></div><div><b>Taginfo for Tanzania:</b> <a href="http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.<wbr>opengeodata.hu/</a><br>* Amenity : <a href="http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/keys/amenity#values" target="_blank">http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.<wbr>opengeodata.hu/keys/amenity#<wbr>values</a><br><br></div><div>find undocumented key-values </div><div>* <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">amenity=mobile_money_agent<br></span>* amenity=private_toilets / amenity=private_toilet<br>* highway=footpath<br>* ...</div><div><br>or find an undocumented keys or typos:<br>* damage= <a href="http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/keys/damage" target="_blank">http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.<wbr>opengeodata.hu/keys/damage</a></div><div>* blockage= <a href="http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/keys/blockage" target="_blank">http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.<wbr>opengeodata.hu/keys/blockage</a></div><div>* mjumbe= <a href="http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/keys/mjumbe" target="_blank">http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.<wbr>opengeodata.hu/keys/mjumbe</a></div><div>* highways= <a href="http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/keys/highways" target="_blank">http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.<wbr>opengeodata.hu/keys/highways</a> typo 327 <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">highway(s)</span></div><div>* <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">buildng= </span><a href="http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/keys/buildng" target="_blank">http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.<wbr>opengeodata.hu/keys/buildng</a> typo <br>* top_width= <a href="http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/keys/top_width" target="_blank">http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.<wbr>opengeodata.hu/keys/top_width</a></div><div><br></div><div>checking tagging problems:</div><div><a href="http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/reports/characters_in_keys#space" target="_blank">http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.<wbr>opengeodata.hu/reports/<wbr>characters_in_keys#space</a><br><a href="http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/reports/characters_in_keys#letters" target="_blank">http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.<wbr>opengeodata.hu/reports/<wbr>characters_in_keys#letters</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Data cleaning:<br>* addr:city=* <a href="http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/keys/addr%3Acity#values" target="_blank">http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.<wbr>opengeodata.hu/keys/addr%<wbr>3Acity#values</a> ( check pages 3- )<br>* building:material= <a href="http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/keys/building%3Amaterial#values" target="_blank">http://af-<wbr>tz.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/<wbr>keys/building%3Amaterial#<wbr>values</a><br>* boundary= <a href="http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/keys/boundary#values" target="_blank">http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.<wbr>opengeodata.hu/keys/boundary#<wbr>values</a><br><br><br>Other Examples:<br><br>Nicaragua: <a href="http://ca-ni.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://ca-ni.taginfo-dev.<wbr>opengeodata.hu/</a></div><div>Haiti: <a href="http://ca-ni.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://ca-ni.taginfo-<wbr>dev.opengeodata.hu/</a><br>Cuba: <a href="http://ca-cu.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://ca-cu.taginfo-<wbr>dev.opengeodata.hu/</a></div><div><br>Burkina Faso: <a href="http://af-bf.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://af-bf.taginfo-<wbr>dev.opengeodata.hu/</a><br>Zambia: <a href="http://af-zm.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://af-zm.taginfo-<wbr>dev.opengeodata.hu/</a><br>Niger: <a href="http://af-ne.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://af-ne.taginfo-<wbr>dev.opengeodata.hu/</a><br>Nigeria: <a href="http://af-ng.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://af-ng.taginfo-<wbr>dev.opengeodata.hu/</a><br>Kenya: <a href="http://af-ke.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://af-ke.taginfo-<wbr>dev.opengeodata.hu/</a><br>Mali: <a href="http://af-ml.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://af-ml.taginfo-<wbr>dev.opengeodata.hu/</a><br>Zimbabwe <a href="http://af-zw.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://af-zw.taginfo-<wbr>dev.opengeodata.hu/</a><br>South Africa: <a href="http://af-za.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://af-za.taginfo-<wbr>dev.opengeodata.hu/</a><br><br></div><div>....</div><div><br></div><div>Some Extra Bonus ( no daily refresh , just a Proof of Concept )<br>==============================<br>California (US) : <a href="http://na-us-ca.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://na-us-ca.taginfo-dev.<wbr>opengeodata.hu/</a></div><div>Mississippi (US) <a href="http://na-us-ms.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://na-us-ms.taginfo-<wbr>dev.opengeodata.hu/</a><br>Berlin (DE): <a href="http://eu-de-be.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://eu-de-be.<wbr>taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/</a><br>British Columbia (CA): <a href="http://na-ca-bc.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://na-ca-bc.taginfo-dev.<wbr>opengeodata.hu/</a></div><div>Istanbul (TR): <a href="http://eu-tr-34.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://eu-tr-34.<wbr>taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/</a></div><div>Saint Petersburg (Russia) <a href="http://ru-ru-spe.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://ru-ru-spe.taginfo-dev.<wbr>opengeodata.hu/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Mexico: <a href="http://na-mx.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://na-mx.taginfo-<wbr>dev.opengeodata.hu/</a></div><div>Greenland: <a href="http://na-gl.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://na-gl.<wbr>taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/</a><br>Columbia: <a href="http://sa-co.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://sa-co.<wbr>taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/</a><br>Papua New Guinea: <a href="http://ao-pg.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://ao-pg.taginfo-<wbr>dev.opengeodata.hu/</a><br>Indonesia: <a href="http://as-id.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://as-id.<wbr>taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/</a><br>Sri Lanka: <a href="http://as-lk.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://as-lk.taginfo-dev.<wbr>opengeodata.hu/</a></div><div>Myanmar: <a href="http://as-mm.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://as-mm.taginfo-<wbr>dev.opengeodata.hu/</a></div><div>Mongolia: <a href="http://as-mn.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://as-mn.<wbr>taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/</a><br>Nepal: <a href="http://as-np.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://as-np.taginfo-<wbr>dev.opengeodata.hu/</a><br><br>Antarctica: <a href="http://aq-aq.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://aq-aq.taginfo-dev.<wbr>opengeodata.hu/</a><br><br><br>see all: <a href="http://taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/" target="_blank">http://taginfo-dev.<wbr>opengeodata.hu/</a><br><br><br>Disclaimer:<br>*This code is based on other open source projects: see <a href="https://github.com/taginfo/dockerized-taginfo#credits" target="_blank">https://github.com/<wbr>taginfo/dockerized-taginfo#<wbr>credits</a> and using Geofabrik daily extracts.</div><div><br><br>bonus for testing:<br>=======<br><div><b>"cuisine" </b> For describing the type of food served at an eating place.</div><div>* Tanzania: <a href="http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/keys/cuisine#values" target="_blank">http://af-tz.taginfo-dev.<wbr>opengeodata.hu/keys/cuisine#<wbr>values</a><br>* California: <a href="http://na-us-ca.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/keys/cuisine#values" target="_blank">http://na-us-ca.<wbr>taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/<wbr>keys/cuisine#values</a><br>* Mexico: <a href="http://na-mx.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/keys/cuisine#values" target="_blank">http://na-mx.taginfo-dev.<wbr>opengeodata.hu/keys/cuisine#<wbr>values</a><br>* Cuba : <a href="http://ca-cu.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/keys/cuisine#values" target="_blank">http://ca-cu.taginfo-dev.<wbr>opengeodata.hu/keys/cuisine#<wbr>values</a><br><br></div><b>"denomination" </b>Defines the subspecies of a specific religion<br>* Sri Lanka: <a href="http://as-lk.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/keys/denomination#values" target="_blank">http://as-lk.taginfo-<wbr>dev.opengeodata.hu/keys/<wbr>denomination#values</a><br>* South Africa: <a href="http://af-za.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/keys/denomination#values" target="_blank">http://af-za.taginfo-<wbr>dev.opengeodata.hu/keys/<wbr>denomination#values</a><br>* Mongolia: <a href="http://as-mn.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/keys/denomination#values" target="_blank">http://as-mn.<wbr>taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/<wbr>keys/denomination#values</a><br>* Indonesia: <a href="http://as-id.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/keys/denomination#values" target="_blank">http://as-id.<wbr>taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/<wbr>keys/denomination#values</a></div><div><br></div><div>// Remainder: links valid for the next 2 weeks! after shutdown or change.</div><div><br></div><div>I love this community :) </div><div> Imre<br> // ImreSamu <br><br><br></div></div><div><br></div></div>
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