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map in OSM first then share to MSF.  You are aware you can create files 
for OSMAND without creating something in OSM first?<br>
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Cheerio John<br>
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<span>Roxana NAZARIE wrote on 8/6/2021 7:49 AM:</span><br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Dear
 all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I’m 
writing to you concerning the best way for MSF and for OSM community to 
share MSF data to OSM.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">As 
MSF is a high consumer of volunteered geographic information as well as 
GIS data shared on different humanitarian platforms, we’ve
 been working lately on defining an internal Data Sharing Policy for 
what we call “non-sensitive geospatial data”, so that at our turn we 
share the data we collect/produce with the geospatial community. The 
“non-sensitive geospatial data” refers to
</span><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" 
lang="EN-GB">Populated</span><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> 
places,
</span><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" 
lang="EN-GB">Roads, Buildings with no classification, Bridges, Water 
surfaces
</span><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">and </span>
<span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" 
lang="EN-GB">Water points. Eventhough a dataset coming from a field 
mission might be considered at a first sight a
</span><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">“non-sensitive
 geospatial data”, before sharing it to OSM we need to have the local 
mission approval – which is  an .xls file that we keep internally.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Last
 year we had a rush request from the field to upload to OSM a dataset 
with buildings extracted from imagery (by one of our units),
 so that the GIS Officer in the field could see them as background in 
OsmAnd, and thus ease the data collection in the field in the context of
 a Mosquito indoor spraying campaign - instead of having to manually 
upload the dataset on each mobile device. In the
 end the project was cancelled in the field, but we wanted to pursue 
with the data sharing, and we launched an import process. We realized 
soon that passing through all the steps of an import (especially the 
Community buy-in, Wiki page and the Import review)
 is a time consuming process, and it doesn’t prove at all to be as 
operational as we would need in a rush context.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Our 
conclusion was that for us it would be
<b>more straightforward to share data as an edit process</b>, with the 
help of advanced editors.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The 
approach we would like to have is:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Have
 the mission approval for the datasets we want to share</span><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" 
lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" 
lang="EN-GB">Check the data we want to share against the existing OSM 
data<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" 
lang="EN-GB">Do the necessary geometry corrections<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" 
lang="EN-GB">Convert the GIS attributes to osm tags<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" 
lang="EN-GB">Generate the .osm files<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" 
lang="EN-GB">Add them in JOSM > edit accordingly > Push the data 
to OSM (using individual accounts, and source data as “MSF”, or using an
 MSF account)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" 
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" 
lang="EN-GB">This process can take 2-3 days max, instead of an import 
process which might take at least 1-2 weeks.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" 
lang="EN-GB">We have now on-pending to share data for Nigeria, 
Madagascar and Sudan. It would be very helpful to define the best way
 to do it so that the process is clear and straightforward for everyone 
involved.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" 
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" 
lang="EN-GB">Many thanks for your advice,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" 
lang="EN-GB">Roxana<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR">Roxana Nazarie<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="FR">GIS Data Manager | GIS Centre</span></b><span
 lang="FR"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA">Médecins Sans Frontières</span><span
 lang="FR-CH"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black" lang="FR-CA">Email</span><span
 style="color:#1F497D" lang="FR-CA">: </span><span lang="FR-CA"><a 
href="mailto:roxana.nazarie@geneva.msf.org" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
 style="color:#0563C1">roxana.nazarie@geneva.msf.org</span></a>
<span style="color:#1F497D">| </span><span style="color:black">Web:</span><span
 style="color:#1F497D"> </span></span><a href="https://geo.msf.org/home"
 moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#0563C1" lang="FR-CH">https://geo.msf.org/home</span></a>
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