[Imports-us] NPS/GRSM Import: OSM file for review/comment

[Thomas Colson]

Answers are in-line:

1. A  long name was truncated. "Sugarlands Maintenace Yard Parking C".
a. Not seeing this..are you referring to the misspelling (fixed)?
2. All of the roads seem to have goods=no, and hgv=no. With a park this
large, it seems unlikely that trucks are not allowed in at all. Perhaps you
want to use access=destination instead?
a. All park entrances are signed with "No Commercial Vehicles", with the
exception of US 441 between Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge. VERY strictly
enforced. Deliveries are made to one location in the park per written
exclusion solely for those operators, and roads are closed when construction
vehicles are operating. Even a tow truck coming to retrieve a
disabled/wrecked vehicle in the  middle of the park must receive permission
before entering the park. Realizing this will evoke some spirited responses,
I'll direct any questions to 36 CFR 9.50 - USE OF ROADS BY COMMERCIAL
VEHICLES. We have a pretty big challenge with commercial GPS/LBS providers
routing commercial vehicles through National Parks (shortest route!), and
are not experiencing a lot of success in convincing those providers to alter
their content. 
3. The file is getting pretty large. I would not add anything else before
upload it.
a. A lot of the size is coming from the substantial "footprint" that got
downloaded into OSM due to the irregular shape of our boundary, areas in
which we did no editing. I'm hoping that denoding or simplifying the trails
alone will knock the size down, too. But, yes, no plans to add new objects
at this time. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Remillard [mailto:remillard.jason at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 8:22 PM
To: Thomas Colson
Cc: talk-us-nps at openstreetmap.org; Imports US; nate_irwin at nps.gov; Akella,
Mamata
Subject: Re: [Imports-us] NPS/GRSM Import: OSM file for review/comment

Hi,

- A  long name was truncated. "Sugarlands Maintenace Yard Parking C".
- All of the roads seem to have goods=no, and hgv=no. With a park this
large, it seems unlikely that trucks are not allowed in at all.
Perhaps you want to use access=destination instead?
- The file is getting pretty large. I would not add anything else before
upload it.

Otherwise, I did not see anything else to complain about.

Jason


On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Thomas Colson <thomas_colson at nps.gov>
wrote:
> At the Import-US meeting we attended (last month?), we agreed we would 
> cease piece-mealing our import and would instead continue work 
> offline, and post our OSM file to the community to comment on. As 
> evident by list serve postings, there is still some discussion about 
> how to tag, what, etc.
>
>
>
> We hope that the community can offer some meaningful, constructive, 
> and tactful feedback on this park-wide OSM file. Several other parks, 
> as well as OSM Mappers, are eager to begin the same process themselves.
>
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>
> A few details:
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> 1.       A conflict check was run just before this was uploaded. Conflicts
> within the park jurisdiction were corrected;
>
> 2.       A validation was run just before this was uploaded. Errors (most)
> were deal with, there remain some warnings;
>
> 3.       Bridges/tunnels are/were not included in this edit. That will be
a
> next step, we're waiting the results of our last bridge inventory, as 
> we want to include max weight with the edits;
>
> 4.       This includes the new "ranger_station" tag;
>
> 5.       We have NOT "de-noded" or simplified ways. I'd like to work with
> Paul Norman on that independently, he has a good eye for that, and I'd 
> like to do it all at once. The trails (uploaded in 2009?) are clearly over
noded!
>
> 6.       Streams/NHD are not included in this import, nor do we have plans
> to incorporate local-resolution NHD into the OSM database
>
> 7.       Nps:verified has been replaced with Source:NPS
>
> 8.       Regarding the latest GNIS tag discussion, we have NOT removed any
> GNIS tags..however, it would be very easy to do so, in bulk. We're in 
> agreement with leaving ele and GNISID.
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> The file can be downloaded from
> https://irma.nps.gov/App/Reference/Profile?code=2202706 or searching 
> for
> 2202706 at https://irma.nps.gov/App/Portal
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> Thomas Colson
>
> Great Smoky Mountains National Park
>
> 107 Park HQ Road
>
> Gatlinburg, TN 37738
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> (865)436-1701
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> (865)202-4158
>
> Thomas_colson at nps.gov
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