[Imports-us] USNPS, Great Smoky Mountains Bulk Import In Progress

Clifford Snow clifford at snowandsnow.us
Sun May 19 20:14:23 UTC 2013

I know I saw the messages and even commented on some of the proposals. It
was back in April I believe.

The wiki page is

On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Thomas Colson <thomas_colson at nps.gov>wrote:

> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports-us/2013-April/000052.html
> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2013-April/010698.html
> We feel we did our due diligence in informing the community of this import
> in advance of the activity, including posting in the appropriate Wiki
> pages,
> import-us, and talk-us. We got lots of feedback through the mailing list
> and
> via direct email and reached out to some users that we identified were
> using
> the data commercially. As we could not identify any "local community" Wiki
> page or mailing list specifically relevant to the mountain region of east
> TN/west NC, we reviewed item histories to see who the "power mappers"
> within
> the park footprint were (and communicated with the one we did find), and
> exchanged email with one of you directly regarding a component of our
> proposed import, which lead to us dropping streams from our initial import.
> For the most part, community feedback was incorporated in our planning
> where
> we are legally allowed to do so, including use of a dedicated import
> account.
> If there is a formal path for approval of a proposed import, we'd love to
> hear about it. This is a pilot project which will hopefully entice other
> National Parks to do the same, and we plan on putting a lot of effort into
> maintaining a Wiki page for NPS imports. If a NPS Park updating OSM data
> results in this type of reaction, we'd like to get in front of it so the
> next park doesn't get such a hostile response. The goal is to encourage
> park
> GIS managers to be active participants in the OSM community, and hopefully
> there will be many more NPS park imports hitting the "street".
> As we plan on continuing with importing/updating the park footprint
> throughout the summer, we look forward to a meaningful dialogue which allow
> that process to move smoothly.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Remillard [mailto:remillard.jason at gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 3:10 PM
> To: Thomas Colson
> Subject: Re: [Imports-us] USNPS, Great Smoky Mountains Bulk Import In
> Progress
> Hi Thomas,
> It might help posting the URL to the import project wiki, and the change
> set
> url. Going forward, you should do this for every update to the email lists.
> It would help give everybody context. There are lots of imports going on,
> so
> it is hard for everybody to keep track of them.
> I did end up finding the wiki, Honestly, the it is a bit confusing.
> Lots of different kinds of changes. A sample OSM file posted to the list
> would probably have been a better for everybody to look at.
> Thanks
> Jason.
> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Thomas Colson <thomas_colson at nps.gov>
> wrote:
> > We have completed "seeding" a portion of Great Smoky Mountains
> > National Park OSM data this weekend. We focused on the Cades Cove
> > section of the park, which contains a complete sample of the types of
> > features that are of relevance to visitor services and how they can be
> depicted in OSM.
> >
> > The parking icons and labels are a bit obtrusive in the default OSM
> > renderer, as are the building labels. I'll likely remove some parking
> > node tags as well as building labels, really not necessary to label
> > every shed and generator building (this is what came out of our
> > default facilities data). Parking ways are also named, so I don't see
> > a problem with not labeling every single parking node.
> >
> > The only import issues were related to connecting a few roads to roads
> > we weren't updating, JOSM Editor caught those smoothly.
> >
> > The update rendered in the ESRI OSM Tile Service within a few minutes,
> > which was very cool, and also allowed for rapid QA against our Raw GIS
> database.
> >
> > Nate and Mamata will be presenting our work at State of the Map in a
> > few weeks, and will incorporate feedback into the remainder of the park
> import.
> >
> > Changesets are linked on the GRSM Wiki Page.
> >
> >
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