[Imports-us] USNPS, Great Smoky Mountains Bulk Import In Progress

Thomas Colson thomas_colson at nps.gov
Mon May 20 15:18:58 UTC 2013

Serge, the NPS OSM team (all 3 of us) think a conference call with some
representatives of the DWG and Import-US Committee might be in order, so we
can establish some agreement, especially in the area of tagging for NPS, as
that is a protocol we feel is critical in our contributions to OSM. This
would also allow us to showcase some of the draft products that our National
Office is developing using OSM data.  Nate and Mamata will be at SFO next
month, might be a good time to chat as well. The Wiki you see is intended
for this specific import, we're more interested in developing  a Wiki that
covers mapping in all NPS units, with emphasis on appropriate tagging and
data quality. Bear in mind that there are NPS units with differing levels of
GIS data availability, quality, and staff/volunteer resources to move data
to OSM. This leads to an opportunity to engage OSM mappers to map in parks,
using this hypothetical Wiki, which would cover things that wouldn't
necessarily be covered in the well-documented Urban-area mapping guidelines,
or...trail ratings for Germany. 

We are unable to use Google Plus tools in the NPS, BTW. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Serge Wroclawski [mailto:emacsen at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 9:10 AM
To: Thomas Colson
Cc: imports-us at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Imports-us] USNPS, Great Smoky Mountains Bulk Import In


Thanks for this. From the email, I see the wiki page:


I will need to go through it later this morning, but it looks complete,
which is great.

I'm sorry if my mail came out badly, like I said, I'm a bit overwhelmed with
the imports, and that has nothing to do with you.

I'm going to announce that I won't be at the meeting tonight (it interferes
with a work event), so we can either have a meeting w/o me, or move the

I think the import looks like it might be useful, but I have a bunch of
practical questions, as well as some tagging questions.

I see a link to the original data, and I see several chagesets. This is
good, but do you have the script you're using to generate the osm data?

There are several folks here on this list (Paul and Jason in
particular) which have expertise in these kinds of uploads (I do too, but I
bow to their work).

- Serge

On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Thomas Colson <thomas_colson at nps.gov>
> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2013-April/010698.htm
> l
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Serge Wroclawski [mailto:emacsen at gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 2:40 PM
> To: Thomas Colson
> Cc: Akella, Mamata; imports-us at openstreetmap.org; nate_irwin at nps.gov
> Subject: Re: [Imports-us] USNPS, Great Smoky Mountains Bulk Import In 
> Progress
> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Thomas Colson 
> <thomas_colson at nps.gov>
> wrote:
>> We have completed "seeding" a portion of Great Smoky Mountains 
>> National Park OSM data this weekend.
> When you say "seeded", what do you mean?
> What data are you "seeding" and where does it come from?
> Where is your Wiki page on the import?
> What steps have you taken for community review or collaboration?
>> Nate and Mamata will be presenting our work at State of the Map in a 
>> few weeks, and will incorporate feedback into the remainder of the 
>> park
> import.
>> Changesets are linked on the GRSM Wiki Page.
> Where is this wiki page, and why is this import only being announced 
> for review after it's been started?
> If my tone sounds hostile, I'm sorry, but I'm a bit frustrated about 
> imports that are done, then announced, and this is the third I've 
> heard about this weekend, and this isn't how imports are supposed to 
> be done, not in the project as a whole, but especially not in the US.
> - Serge

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