[Imports-us] OSM US Import Document Draft

Randal Hale rjhale at northrivergeographic.com
Tue Nov 5 02:39:45 UTC 2013

So I guess a question would be where do GIS people go with their GIS 
issues in OSM? Talk-us, imports, imports-us, or the new diversity list 
we just discovered? Do we belong on the imports list or do we need to 
get shuffled off somewhere to be weird, do our secret handshake thing, 
say spatial join instead of conflation, and then show up here? Does the 
imports list just handle GIS Data? There's a lot of work being done here 
to import data - I assume it's all GIS Data.

There's a growing number of us who see the value in OSM - and we have 
data/blood to contribute. Not all of our data by any stretch but enough 
maybe to where we start a list of "things that are good" and a list of 
"things that are bad" and we interact with other GIS people before they 
get here. Not that I'm advocating a separate environment ( ala 
http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Shelbyville) but maybe we need to do some 
pre-planning before we show up on the imports list.  Maybe we hash out a 
lot of problems with GIS data before we ever get here (like "is this a 
sustainable import" or a "Did you run topology on this dataset?"). Maybe 
we could stop a lot of insanity like overlapping city/county boundaries 
and point out how the data is good and bad from an OSM/GIS 
aspect.....which probably would have stopped the ATHOSM Beer and Mapping 
event a few weeks ago since we didn't do our planning.

Well - I guess I just described a separate environment/communal setting. 
We don't want to be a problem - but we've got a reason to be here and we 
seem to be a struggling point (and apparently have been for some time). 
The whole discussion started out about community - Brian just hit it 
again and it keeps coming up. Maybe we are the community.


Randal Hale, GISP
North River Geographic Systems, Inc
423.653.3611 rjhale at northrivergeographic.com
<mailto:rjhale at northrivergeographic.com>

On 11/04/2013 07:52 PM, Brian H Wilson wrote:
>> >I think this cannot be answered wholesale. It is for the OSM community
>> >to reach out to others - GIS community or elsewhere
> What is this "OSM community" you keep talking about?
> The only people I know of locally (rural Oregon) who are more than 
> vaguely interested in OSM are GIS professionals. Most people here 
> think maps are paper things that come from AAA.
> If you want OSM to succeed outside cities then you need to refine your 
> thinking and your tactics.
> Brian
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