[Imports] Import US County data

Wed Dec 8 17:24:35 UTC 2010

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.... regardless of the silly OSM licence debate.

.... its a good thing that there is little competition in this field
of OpenSource mapping, although our collective view of what
'opensource' and 'mapping' means, is about as different as everyone
reading these words.

cheers,
sam

On 12/8/10, Sam Vekemans <acrosscanadatrails at gmail.com> wrote:
> Perhaps..
> I guess time will tell. :)
>
>
> Lots of people are working on finding solutions, so im sure 1 will emerge.
>
>
> And there is also more than 1 'right answer' as each situation is
> different.
>
> and sometimes means looking at the problem from an 'outside of osm'
> approach.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
> Sam
>
> On 12/8/10, Ian Dees <ian.dees at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I don't think koordinates or geocommons offer what we need, though: a way
>> for a mapper to take the results of merging and use them while mapping in
>> JOSM or Potlatch.
>>
>> I don't think the right thing to do is to merge the data and then upload
>> it
>> wholesale (i.e. with a script) into OSM.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Sam Vekemans
>> <acrosscanadatrails at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I'm still early in the game, but it looks like koordinates.com could
>>> be the best holding house for this.
>>> .... all that needs to be done on koordinates.com side is to have the
>>> option to zoom into an area and export as .osm files.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'll be loading a bit more samples of shp files so to see what it's
>>> like.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think geocommons.com is planning on supporting .osm files as a
>>> export option.... its just too early to tell who will be the biggest
>>> and best :)
>>>
>>>
>>> If there is a 3rd .shp file website out their, i'd be happy to hear of
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> sam
>>>
>>>
>>> p.s. on the new zealand mailing list, folks are wrattling their brains
>>> to get something.
>>> ... and for canvec it's the ommissions and remissions that can be done
>>> at canvec data source level.
>>>
>>>
>>> Still no breakthrough afaik ...
>>>
>>> On 12/8/10, Ian Dees <ian.dees at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > With TIGER 2010 starting to roll out we need to think about how to
>>> > offer
>>> > some way of comparing OSM with arbitrary datasets.
>>> >
>>> > Here are my thoughts so far:
>>> > 1) User uploads a shapefile
>>> > 2) User selects attribute(s) in the shapefile to use for matching with
>>> OSM
>>> > data (i.e. a road name or tiger identifier or something)
>>> > 3) System performs a geospatial match (including the attribute(s) the
>>> user
>>> > specified in step 2) on OSM data in the area of the shapefile
>>> > 4) System renders a map with three layers: a) data in reference but
>>> > not
>>> > found in OSM, b) data in OSM but not found in reference, c) data in
>>> > both
>>> >
>>> > Based on (4), mappers can modify the OSM data to more-closely match
>>> > the
>>> > geometry or meta-data of the reference data set. A more complicated
>>> version
>>> > of this tool could allow the mapper to accept wholesale changes in
>>> geometry
>>> > or attributes into the OSM dataset (removing or manipulating the
>>> > existing
>>> > data).
>>> >
>>> > This is all pretty tricky, but I'd love to hear other people's
>>> > opinions.
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Mike N. <niceman at att.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I have obtained a set of road centerlines from a US county that has
>>> >> been
>>> >> published in the public domain.   I would like to use this to correct
>>> the
>>> >> OSM roads for that county, since the TIGER data was one of the "poor
>>> >> alignments" that we are so familiar with.   In addition, the road
>>> >> names
>>> >> have
>>> >> all been changed for E911 consistency.   This file is likely even
>>> >> newer
>>> >> than
>>> >> the 2010 TIGER centerlines.
>>> >>
>>> >>  I have used Ian's shp-to-osm to begin looking at the data.
>>> >>
>>> >>  1.   Does anyone have a rules file for a typical municipal road
>>> >> centerlines shape file conversion?     I started to develop this, but
>>> >> can't
>>> >> believe no one has done this before.
>>> >>  2.   Is it good to preserve TIGER tags for untouched roadways, or
>>> >> just
>>> >> delete and replace them?   The geometry is so far off that it is
>>> >> easier
>>> to
>>> >> delete and replace.
>>> >>
>>> >>  Usual import disclaimers -
>>> >>
>>> >>  Any relations will be preserved.
>>> >>  Any existing road alignment edits will be preserved (such as for
>>> >> interstates)
>>> >>  Any existing attribution will be preserved (speed limits, traffic
>>> lights,
>>> >> etc)
>>> >>  Corrected data will be manually stitched to existing data at borders
>>> >> or
>>> >> pre-edited roads.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
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