[Imports] Importing Arkansas data

[Ian Dees]

Hi Marten,

I'd be happy to have a discussion somewhere public (as my opinion is one of
many) like IRC or on this mailing list.

To clarify what I meant about parcel data: I'm assuming you mean parcels in
terms of household property boundaries. This data is difficult to fit into
the OSM data model because it a) updates frequently and b) has an "official"
source that is better to use than OSM. If you can extract addressing from
the parcel data then we can use it to do better geocoding, but loading OSM
with parcel data puts us closer to a "data dumping grounds" than an active,
community-built map.

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Marten Hogeweg <mhogeweg at esri.com> wrote:

> Hi Ian,
>
> We'd be happy to discuss and show the editor we've developed for ArcGIS
> users. We'd also like to understand your comment about parcel data better
> and hear more about such policies in OSM. We had not found info on this on
> the wiki or elsewhere.
>
> Would Thursday or Friday work for you? Say 11am eastern?
>
>
> On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:35 AM, Ian Dees < <ian.dees at gmail.com>
> ian.dees at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Al Pascual < <apascual at esri.com><apascual at esri.com>
> apascual at esri.com> wrote:
>
>> Imports,
>>
>>
>>
>> The state of Arkansas provided the data in shapefiles to be uploaded to
>> OpenStreetMaps, we prepared the parcel data
>>
>
> I think that we (as a community) have decided that parcel data is not
> useful to us. Parcel boundaries are especially not useful. Parcel addresses,
> however, are another story. I'd be happy to see addressing data imported as
> points or applied to parcel buildings if those are available.
>
>
>> to be uploaded making sure they are not duplicates of parcel data in
>> Arkansas, also we have all road data for the state that we will like to
>> upload, we wrote a tool that using ArcGIS Editor for OpenStreetMap 1.1
>> detects duplicates by how many collisions and intersections we found and
>> only uploads the ways that do not have any collision.
>>
>
> Please show us this tool. Beyond seeing the cool technology behind it, we
> should make sure that it's doing "the right thing". How do you plan on
> uploading these changes? What happens when an upload fails midway? Do you
> reupload the whole changeset (thus duplicating data)? What are "collisions"
> that you are detecting?
>
>
>>
>>
>> Let us know if you have any questions.
>>
>
> Who is "us"? Is ESRI getting into the business of loading data into OSM?
>
>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Al
>>
>
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