[Imports] Import request - Piemonte and Torino

[Mayeul Kauffmann]

Hi again,
I was wrong in saying that Piemonte requires attribution
 ON THE MAP ITSELF for this particular dataset (sorry), they just
require attribution and say what should be the attribution.

However, the question was asked here about another Piemonte dataset:

https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/12379

One of the answer was that for CC-BY 2.5 you need to get "permission to
forgoe downstream attribution and attribute via the web site".
In effect, websites (other than osm.org) or portable devices that re-use
OSM tiles or data have no link to the appropriate wiki page.
Even osm.org as only a direct link (from homepage) to
http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright/en where the list of CC BY
conributors is far shorter than
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue

Sure, CC-BY is not CC-BY-SA.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cannot_import_CC_BY-SA_licensed_data

Still on the following page
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue
there are "attribution" datasets tagged as  "Formal Discussion
Required".

Is the need for "permission to forego downstream attribution and
attribute via the web site" the official status for CC-BY imports?

Mayeul

Le lundi 03 décembre 2012 à 18:11 +0100, Mayeul Kauffmann a écrit :
> Hi,
> CC-BY license says that users need to follow the specific way in which
> the right holder asks to do the attribution. I am aware of a large
> Piedmonte database under CC-BY which specifically requires attribution
> ON THE MAP ITSELF (i.e. on the derived map), something OSM does not
> comply with.
> I believe I am talking about the same Piedmonte database as mentioned by
> Maurizio. I suggest further checks.
> Mayeul
> 
> Le samedi 24 novembre 2012 à 14:17 +0100, Maurizio Daniele a écrit :
> > Il 23/11/2012 18:41, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto:
> > 
> > > For cc0 the case should be clear, and also cc-by would AFAIK comply
> > > with our current terms (as long as you cite them correctly, rumours
> > > go that a mention in the wiki would be sufficient). A problem might
> > > be if the active contributors decided in the future to move to an
> > > even more open license (e.g. cc0) in which case the cc-by data would
> > > not comply any more to the license and would have to be removed
> > > (probably together with what has been built upon). The more data
> > > with cc-by we import, the less free we are to decide to go PD /
> > > cc0. 
> > 
> > Hello Martin,
> > 
> > In any case we've got plenty of CC-BY data due to current, so I think
> > it's not a bigger problem to add more.
> > 
> > > So I wouldn't consider this an automated import, maybe as long as
> > > you survey everything nor even an import at all (you are not copying
> > > but retracing by hand = there is also a kind of verification /
> > > judgement). cheers, Martin
> > 
> > Yes, there are also some data available as shp files (under CC0) we
> > can import directly without redrawing,  but most of them are available
> > only on WMS servers
> > 
> > -- 
> > Maurizio
> > _______________________________________________
> > Imports mailing list
> > Imports at openstreetmap.org
> > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Imports mailing list
> Imports at openstreetmap.org
> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports