[Imports] Slovenia - Landuse import questions

Stefan Baebler stefan.baebler at gmail.com
Fri Dec 12 07:41:24 UTC 2014

Glen, thank you for sharing your experience!

Yes, we did spend sime time already figuring out the proper tags and were
wondering if we should continue with refining details (pointless if the
features would not be imported).

I am familiar with produce/trees/crop/species sub tags and we do plan to
preserve this info where present (olive trees, hop garden, vine plant
nursery...). The unresolved issue is that source contains 2 types of
- id=1222: domestic, garden-like, non-dense, with few older, not purposely
planted, but casually taken care-of various fruit trees around houses and
- id=1221: intensively cared for, larger areas of young, regularly pruned
trees of same species planted in rows after rows. Includes fruit, berries
and nuts
I was conidering landuse=plantation for the later one, but that tag is not
widely used, nor documented well. Is there an established alternative?

Then there is a third somwhat similar area:
- id=1240: "other permanently planted areas" which might contain either dog
rose bushes, elder trees, rowan trees, older non-intensive vines and similar

Photo examples are available in
http://rkg.gov.si/GERK/documents/RABA_IntKljuc_20131009.pdf (search for the
id number)

We did not dig into the various wetland areas yet (id 1321, 4100, 4210 and

Any expert opinions on those areas?


On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Glen Barnes <barnaclebarnes at mac.com> wrote:

> b) import everything except "built-up and similar" even if tagging is not
> perfect (including hop gardens, bare rock alpine areas etc, some not even
> being rendered yet, invent (sub)tags if needed, makes some unmapped roads
> nicely visible as strips of unused land, covers 95% of country)
> This is where I would spend a lot of time working through all the possible
> tags and coming up with the best approach for each layer. We did this in NZ
> and you can see an example here -
> http://linz2osm.openstreetmap.org.nz/data_dict/layer/boatramp_cl/info/.
> Do not tag for the renderer - Others may well create their own maps which
> do render the content. I wouldn’t 'dumb down’ any tags either. Orchards
> already have a deep tagging scheme which allows you to specify the crops
> that are planted - http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dorchard
> <http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Tag:landuse=orchard>.
> You may also have some specific types of landform that is unique to your
> area/culture. We did make up some new tag - For example we have pa sites in
> NZ which are unique to our country and none of the other historic tags
> really fit well. You should probably document these new tags on the OSM
> wiki.
> In short if there is relevant content that can be imported it is better to
> go a bit deeper in tagging rather than lighter. Just spend the time
> proposing, debating and refining your tagging scheme (Some of our
> discussions went back and further 5 times before we settled on the best
> approach).
> Good luck.
> Glen
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