[Imports] NYC building + address import (was Re: Buildings & Address in Washington, DC, USA.)

[Alex Barth]

Serge,

Leading the OSM building import I and my colleagues have been responsive to
your valuable input and those of other people from the NYC community and
beyond. Sure, there have been glitches but that's how we're learning. We've
had very frank conversations about this and I think bottom line is we're
doing a good job.

Here is a list of all issues we've had discussions on with you personally,
looking through the issue tracker there are similar conversations with
other community members:

https://github.com/osmlab/nycbuildings/search?q=emacsen&ref=cmdform&type=Issues

Including one where you've interacted with one of our staff mappers, Ruben:

https://github.com/osmlab/nycbuildings/issues/129

If there are any issues in communicating with someone on our team like you
said in your post, please let me know immediately. We'll work this out like
we've done this time and again.

I'm interested to make this process work better, and you know I'm open for
constructive and specific feedback.

What hits _me_ the wrong way is how you present an import we are working
hard on doing right in a pretty unbalanced light. This "we" includes you as
you've invested a ton of time into this project too which I'm thankful for.

I'd like to see a completely different attitude in interaction on this
list. How can we make this work?


> The NYC building import being done by remote mappers has had a number
> of negative effects.
>
> Firstly, it's had a negative impact on the OSM community in NYC by
> basically taking the wind out of our sails. OSM NYC was gaining
> community interested in doing the import, but as soon as the paid
> mappers worked full force, we saw a drastic reduction in community
> participation. In addition, it had a major blow to our enthusiasm, me
> included.
>
> Secondly, I'm still finding problems by the Brazilian digitizers, and
> they do not respond to OSM messages, comments on their notes, or the
> github that OSMers were instructed to use in leu of using standard OSM
> communication methods. The only thing that I've found that they do
> respond to consistently is being blocked by the DWG. That kind of lack
> of communication hits me the wrong way.
>
> While the data quality of the NYC import may be good (I can't know for
> sure), the damage to the community in NYC has been quite strong.
>
> In addition to the NYC comparison- I'm still awaiting the answers that
> Katie and I asked earlier in the weekend, and I'd like to add that
> this plan does not address any question of ongoing stuardship of the
> data, ie future updates, which is something that, during that pause,
> it came out that MapBox would not do.
>
> - Serge
>
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