[Imports] Import of 14, 020 United Nations Mission in Liberia place nodes

Mon Sep 15 12:01:53 UTC 2014

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Hi, all:

I have tweaked the import wiki [1] review to incorporate the
suggestions of Frederik, Christoph and Andrew, and wrote a detailed
workflow [2].

For the CLNAME, I finally opted for is_in:chiefdom as suggested by
Andrew, and left the unmil:id tag unchanged.

The HOT Tasking Manager job is ready [3], although not published yet,
obviously.

I would be pleased if you have a review of both wikis and comment any
issues before we look for volunteers and proceed with the import.

Cheers, and have a nice week,

Rafael.

[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_Liberia_UNMIL_Places
[2]
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_Liberia_UNMIL_Places_Workflow
[3] http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/652

On 14/09/14 01:35, Andrew Buck wrote:
> Ugh accidentally hit send before message was finished.
> 
> Finally, regarding sharing direct with pegs to bypass osm for
> speed.  This has already been done since the data is in the common
> repository already. The value in getting it into osm is in the
> conflation and having it accessible by nominatim etc.
> 
> -AndrewBuck
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Andrew Buck
>> <andrew.r.buck at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Some processing for refugee camps as suggested makes sense but I
>> would just leave everything else at hamlet. For the great
>> majority this will be correct (like 80 or 90 percent of them).
>> 
>> Regarding time for conflation I think like Raphael that it will
>> go quick. I looked in JOSM when I first found this data and the
>> majority are easy to conflate going very fast once you get the
>> workflow down.
>> 
>> As for the short name tag without town, this is unnecessary as
>> nominatim already matches substrings anyway so this would just be
>> redundant.
>> 
>> Finally,
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:06 PM, Rafael Avila Coya
>>> <ravilacoya at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
> Hi Christoph:
> 
> Thanks for sharing.
> 
> I've tested quite many nodes against imagery, and most of the
> nodes that end with "Village" are actually hamlets, and even some
> (few) just an isolated_dwelling. I will add to the proposal that,
> any name that ends with Village or Town to be added a short_name
> tag that contains the name without the Village or Town ending.
> Again, comments about this are welcome.
> 
> Changing the place value is really fast (+/- 5 seconds).
> 
> I find the place=unknown a good idea, specially for those nodes
> that can't be checked against a hires imagery. During my tests, I
> was already adding a fixme tag for these cases, that I will
> incorporate to the wiki.
> 
> There are, by the way, some nodes ending with "Refugee Camp" that 
> could be good to be pre-processed, adding to them the tag
> refugee=yes
> 
> There are some other issues that I will comment tomorrow. It's too 
> late already and I am done for today.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rafael.
> 
>>>>>> On 13/09/14 23:57, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Saturday
>>>>>> 13 September 2014, Rafael Avila Coya wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A wiki has been created as a draft for discussion: 
>>>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_Liberia_UNMIL_Places
>>>>>> . In that wiki you have a link to the original data.
>>>>> 
>>>>> According to that page you plan on tagging all those
>>>>> place=hamlet based on the the fact that the majority of
>>>>> existing place nodes in the area are hamlets.  That does
>>>>> not seem like a good idea.  A quick look over the names
>>>>> indicates a large variety of place sizes (names consisting
>>>>> of elements like Farm, Mill, Camp, Village, Town) - the
>>>>> least that should be done in terms of pre-processing is an 
>>>>> assessment which OSM categories these usually match and
>>>>> apply tags according to such name components.  This is no
>>>>> replacement for manual evaluation but with 14000 objects
>>>>> skipping such a really simple step would be a waste of
>>>>> ressources.  For all places where no individual indication
>>>>> on the type of place exists no place=* tag or a generic one
>>>>> (like place=yes or place=unknown) should be used by default
>>>>> (possibly with a fixme tag). This would also help those 
>>>>> participating in this import to keep track of their manual 
>>>>> verification work.
> 
>>> 
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