[Imports] Slovenia landcover import RABA-KGZ review

Pavel Machek pavel at ucw.cz
Fri Nov 27 17:17:12 UTC 2015


Hi!

> On 27/11/2015 10:36, Pavel Machek wrote:
> >On Fri 2015-11-27 00:41:35, Andy Townsend wrote:
> >>On 26/11/2015 22:04, Pavel Machek wrote:
> >>>And you _can't_ tag for natural=wood, because if someone uses it for wood
> >>>production, that's incorrect.
> >>You're going to have to explain that one a bit more I think....
> >See natural=wood at wiki. "Woodland with no forestry", first sentence.
> 
> Well - to be clear that change was made in:
> 
> Revision as of 17:06, 18 August 2012 by Jamicu
> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Jamicu> (Talk
> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Jamicu> | contribs
> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jamicu>) (Edited
> table remove disputed primeval requirement)
> 
> 
> It was clearly an attempt to replace the previous contentious (and
> inaccurate) description ("Natural primeval woodland") with something else,
> but just because someone changes a wiki description it doesn't mean that the
> meaning implied when mappers all around the world mapped stuff changes.
> 
> Also, the simple (and misleading) "Woodland with no forestry" description
> that you refer to was actually removed in:

Well, it is still there, first sentence of the main article.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dwood

Woodland with no forestry.

There are major differences in the way this tag and landuse=forest are
used by some Openstreetmap users. Some use this tag to show an area is
covered in trees, others use it for woodland not impacted by human
maintenance. This problem is explained in the page Forest.

See the page Forest to understand the usage of this tag and
landuse=forest.

And on the page forest:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Forest

...which has some good hint. "wood=yes" is deprecated, but it is
pretty clear that you know it is wood, but do not know if it is
managed. Everything else is ambiguous.

> Right now, the authors of OSM's standard stylesheet have taken the view that
> "natural=wood" and "landuse=forest" only mean "here be trees".
> "landcover=trees"* isn't rendered (though that's complicated by keys in the
> current stylesheet).  Other renderers and other data consumers may take
> other views of course**, but that would vary by region
> internationally.

Well, normally we are very careful for imports. "Just tagging it with
landuse=forest" is of course also an option.

									Pavel
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