[Imports] Ottawa, Canada Tree Import
Devon Fyson
devonfyson at gmail.com
Fri Jul 7 18:38:57 UTC 2017
The issues with the import I have noted
<https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/2017-July/005095.html>
have yet to be resolved.
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Denis Carriere <carriere.denis at gmail.com>
wrote:
> All the priority concerns mentioned above have been resolved in the most
> recent wiki updates.
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario:Ottawa/Import/Trees
>
> Expect this import to start very shortly.
>
> *~~~~~~*
> *Denis Carriere*
> *GIS Software & Systems Specialist*
>
> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 6:26 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer <
> dieterdreist at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> 2017-07-06 11:33 GMT+02:00 Christoph Hormann <osm at imagico.de>:
>>
>>> Note regarding diameter vs. circumference - i was
>>> suggesting to use the established pre-existing tag but in principle you
>>> are free to use any tags you like
>>> (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Any_tags_you_like) - but you need
>>> to document them on the wiki (which is why i complained about use of an
>>> undocumented tag).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I tend to disagree on the "any tag you like" for imports. It's OK for
>> mappers to use any tag they like, but imports have the power to heavily
>> distort any usage statistics (which are the principal arguments in both,
>> discussions with the rendering stylesheet maintainers, as well as in case
>> of attemps to unify different tags with the same meaning), and people will
>> often look at these statistics when deciding which tag to use for a certain
>> feature (especially when there's no documentation). One person could easily
>> "override"/"outplay" the work of hundreds or thousands individual mappers,
>> with the click of an import, hence introducing tag sprawl, incertainty and
>> reducing uniformity.
>>
>> Btw.: the page you linked says in the first paragraph: "So you've
>> followed good practice
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice> and searched the Map
>> Features <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features>, Proposed
>> features <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features>, Rejected
>> features <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rejected_features>, Proposed
>> Relations
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Proposed_relations> and mailing
>> lists' archives
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contact#Mailing_lists> and still
>> can't find a tag for what you'd like to map?".
>> In this case (mapping the size of a tree trunk), there is already a tag
>> for what he wants to map, so the page doesn't seem to apply anyway. And
>> later on it says: "you SHOULD create a proposal
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features> for your
>> feature, if:
>>
>> 1. Your feature is of general interest,...."
>>
>>
>> So rather than just "using" the tag, a proposal should be prepared if
>> there wasn't an established tag already.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Martin
>>
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