[Imports] Open Government Data- India Health Facilities Import (Aruna Valli)

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Thu Jul 11 09:49:54 UTC 2019

Hi Frederik,

Thank you for your valuable response.  Am writing from the official mail ID.

Here is the Clarification on the Local Knowledge: We have planned to create the Maproulette challenge for the non coordinated government data with respect to the regions and for taking this challenge to repositioning the coordinates needs the “Local Knowledge”.
These are the region wise sample MR challenges for the Hospital directory.

For the First: The attributes which we can see in the wiki with uppercases are the unchanged Government attributes.
By the way while tagging these attributes, we have used the lower case letters which is also updated the in tagging plans.

For the second: As per your suggestion we updated the wiki page with the detail explanation of data transformation of the data for both the health related tags and general tags.

For the Third: Thanks for your suggestion we will add import to changesets instead of “import=yes” in elements and Of course, we will make sure to include readable description in changesets comment, then have hash tag as additional information to assist tracking all submitted changesets. It will be something like this “Import of health facilities in India, see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India_Health_Facilities_Import #OpenGovernmentData”.

For the Fourth: Indian government has shared its license about the  “Permissible use of data” stating that this data can be used globally or adapt or publish or translate or add value for all lawful commercial and non-commercial purposes etc...  Here is the link for the license which is already shared in the OSM wiki page: https://data.gov.in/government-open-data-license-india.

For the Fifth:
While working on the import, we first will apply JOSM for validation to ensure errors are all cleared. After the import, we will come back and check all changesets we submitted to guarantee the data satisfy OSM standard. And this is also why it's important for us to include hash tag in changesets comment to allow the QA process to be easier.

Aruna Valli


Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 16:00:13 +0200
From: Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org>
To: imports at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Imports] Open Government Data- India Health Facilities
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thank you for writing.

I applaud your mention of "local knowledge" under the "data merge workflow"; how are you going to ensure that participants actually do have local knowledge?

I have a few comments on your documentation but I haven't been looking at the data yet.

First, there are almost no tags in OSM that begin with an upper-case letter. Your documentation mentions several tags with captial letters.
Double-check them.

Second, you write that "General attributes (Addresses details, Contact Information, Operator etc.. ) in the directories will be tagged with the reference to Global OSM keys.". It would be good to have an exact plan of how you intend to convert this information. Among the values you wish to retain are things like "Pincode", "Hospital_Primary_Email_Id", "Taluka_Name" and I would very much like to know how these will be mapped to OSM in a way that is compatible with existing data in India.

Third, you suggest to tag every object with "Import=yes". Don't do that, tag the changeset with import=yes instead. Also, don't use hashtags in your changeset comment ("#IndiaHealthFacilitiesImport #OpenGovernmentData)", they are an insult to the human reader - use a proper description ("Import of health facilities in India, see <wiki
link>" or so).

Fourth, has the Indian Government Open Data License been approved for import data sources? I am worried that OSM is not compliant with the attribution requirements.

Fifth, I am concerned that you write "QA: post-import". What problems do you expect and can they be avoided during the import, rather than fix them after? "We'll do QA after the import" is, sadly, a good intention of many organised projects which then often fail to do this step.


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