[Imports] Zapis trees in Serbia

Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Fri Feb 12 10:58:32 UTC 2021


sacred=yes in turn loses info about marking on a tree (that, as far as I understood,
is both mandatory and verifiable part of tree being a Zapis tree)


Feb 12, 2021, 11:54 by imports at openstreetmap.org:

> Hello everybody,
>
> I also find these Zapis-Trees very interesting. 
>
> Dealing with history and archaeology I learned that there are a lot of phenomena in nature considered as sacred by the local population, heritage etc. Despite trees these might be springs, rocks, rock shelters, special  locations at rivers and others. For this reason zapis=yes  imho is too specific and following Mateusz argument I would propose something like sacred=yes as a more generic tag.
>
> Best,
> Arne
>
>
>> Am 12.02.2021 um 10:53 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via Imports <>> imports at openstreetmap.org>> >:
>>
>> Thanks for posting here!
>>
>> Interesting topic, I learned something new what is always nice :)
>>
>> As far as I can see everything is done well (though I am unfamiliar with topic
>> and language and relied on google translate)
>>
>> It is definitely an import of a dataset, so it is good that you posted here!
>>
>> I am unsure about, maybe some more generic tag would be better,
>> maybe not.
>>
>> But if you end using zapis=yes - can you document it on 
>> OSM Wiki? Meaning of that tag is not obvious at all for
>> mappers from elsewhere.
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process>>  would be useful
>> if you would want to go with route of creating proposal
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Creating_a_page_describing_key_or_value
>> may be useful if you want to document it as a de facto tag
>> (local community is OK with that tagging, right?)
>> (page is kind of draft that I created recently, so let me know if something is
>> confusing/missing)
>>
>> (posted to imports mailing list only as I am not subscribed to Serbia ml)
>>
>> Feb 10, 2021, 21:05 by >> vanjakom at gmail.com>> :
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm working on a project and it occurred to me it could be counted as
>>> import. I got interested in Zapis some time ago ( sacred tree in
>>> Serbia [1], [2] ). I found there is a team here in Serbia trying to
>>> identify trees. One of their projects was done with Wikimedia Serbia -
>>> local Wikipedia organisation [3]. I reached out to the author and got
>>> permission to use data for mapping inside OSM.
>>> I created a project page [4] and discussed the project locally. My
>>> intention is to go manually over the provided dataset, compare data (
>>> location, description, images ) with current state and satellite
>>> imagery and add trees in OSM. Initially only ones with wikipedia /
>>> wikidata would be added / updated, around 600 trees. I would apply
>>> standard tagging for trees with addition of zapis=yes. Some of the
>>> trees are protected by the government and already in OSM.
>>>
>>> I would appreciate any feedback and let me know if more information is needed.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Vanja
>>>
>>> [1] (english) >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapis
>>> [2] (english) >>> http://www.pmf.kg.ac.rs/KJS/volumes/kjs29/kjs29cvetkovicbrankovic107.pdf
>>> [3] (serbian) >>> https://rs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Пројекат:Запис_-_Свето_дрво
>>> [4] (serbian) >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Serbia/Projekti/Mapiranje_zapisa
>>>
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