[Imports] Florida Landuse Import

Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Wed Feb 23 11:36:00 UTC 2022




Feb 23, 2022, 12:11 by grussausbw at gmx.de:

> 1650: Reclaimed Lands => natural=scrubI checked many of these areas and they were always in bushy land.> 8320: Electrical Power Transmission Lines => landuse=meadowI'll use natural=grassland then. 
> 1900: Open Land (Urban)landuse=meadowThe areas I checked were always grass areas. natural=grassland might be better.
> 2120: Unimproved Pasturesnatural=scrub"Unimproved Pastures" are former landuse=meadows, they are overgrown with bushes and vegeation.
>
Are you sure that Electrical Power Transmission Lines never have scrub
growing beneath them?

(I may be wrong, I am commenting from
the other side of planet from place with a different climate)

In general for such cases I would recommend not importing without review
of such areas

> 2610: Fallow Croplandlanduse=farmlandWhy not? These areas look like something between "Unimproved Pastures" and normal farmland. IMO it's fine to tag these as landuse=farmland, since they don't look too different.
>
I expected scrub at least on some of them (but see disclaimer)

> 5200: Streams & Waterwaysnatural=water;water=riverAn seperate "Streams & Waterways" area is only used if the waterway has a certain size, so this does not incude small streams, only water areas on which water=river is applicable.
>
It would be worth noting on wiki as it is quite surprising transformation.

>  
> "Are these areas built as multipolygons with shared ways on the edges or assingle-way areas with overlapping borders?"
> The landuses are single areas, with overlapping borders. However, almost all manually mapped landuses were also mapped this way - I don't see why I shouldn't import this this way now too.
>
+1 to avoid multipolygons whenever possible (islands of various type, disjoint
areas representing single feature).

Multipolygons used for landuse reusing ways are horrible to edit.

> "Your wiki table contains a lot of "guesses" that may or may not fit,apparently in an effort to get as much paint onto the map as you can."No. For each original value, I have looked at several objects to see what is meant in practice. This is not just guessed. 
>
"several" may be not enough. Such datasets are often differing across different places,
with actual classification and quality uneven.

> "please make sure that you actually union neighboring idential landuse"
>  This is already done in the orginal dataset. 
>
Note that you may unify multiple areas to the same tagging.

> i will keep the orginal description as a note=*?) 
>
Seems really dubious to me. That is confusing for future mappers rather than helpful
(but ask local people and mention it on wiki, do not put too much weight on my
comment)

> I don't think it's a good idea to give people who add 5 POIS in their city once a month such a responsibility, just because they're locals.
>
If you ask on talk-us mailing list and on Slack you will get self-selected audience
enthusiastic
about OSM.

Some new:

Oil, Water or Gas Long Distance Transmission Lines  natural=grassland
I would expect also farmland

Timber Processing  landuse=industrial industrial=sawmill
always sawmills? Excluding storage/seasoning sites?

Cemeteries  Not Imported, often just very small graveyards
very small ones also can be mapped (though if data is not good enough
to import - it obviously should be skipped)

The same goes for 5% of not mapped substations (you are not obligated to
import it! But maybe someone will be interested).


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