[Imports] Florida Landuse Import

Brian May bmay at mapwise.com
Thu Feb 24 03:36:00 UTC 2022


As a long time Florida mapper all over the state (10+ years) and someone 
very familiar with the land cover data sets in FL (I helped managed a 
land cover mapping contract for a round of this in the 1990s at St Johns 
Water Management District - its been a long running effort by the 5 WMDs 
and FDEP), I HIGHLY SUGGEST going very slow with this and feel uneasy 
about the whole thing. I started and stopped a FL water import based on 
the land cover data due to a variety of reasons and that was dead simple 
compared to what is proposed here. Having said that - MAYBE its a decent 
idea in rural and very lightly mapped areas on a piece by piece basis. 
This is not like a building or address import, which can go much 
smoother. Polygons with shared borders, multi-polygons and the land 
cover vs land use issues greatly complicate things. Look to others past 
experiences with these issues.

I reviewed parts of the sample data set and when you get into urban 
areas especially, my gut feeling is just don't do it. Use it as a guide. 
There's so many gotchas waiting to bite you and everyone. Especially the 
land cover vs land use issues. What should follow parcel boundaries vs 
not, etc, etc, etc. When you get into natural areas and possibly 
agricultural areas, maybe. The data does do a pretty good job of 
differentiating various natural land cover types and ag areas. Again, 
best advice is use it as a guide.

FYI: I have parcel boundary data everyone can use as an overlay for FL. 
JOSM Imagery URL below:

wms:https://maps1.mapwise.com/cgi-bin/mapserv?map=maps/osm-florida.map&FORMAT=image/png&TRANSPARENT=TRUE&VERSION=1.1.1&SERVICE=WMS&REQUEST=GetMap&LAYERS=parcels-all-outline&STYLES=&SRS={proj}&WIDTH={width}&HEIGHT={height}&BBOX={bbox}

Brian aka grouper

On 2/22/2022 12:34 PM, Hiausirg wrote:
> Hello,
> I am currently planning an landuse import covering (nearly) the 
> complete US State of Florida. The data is published by the Florida 
> Department of Enviromental Protection (=Public Domain) at 
> https://geodata.dep.state.fl.us/datasets/FDEP::current-landuse-landscape-support-index-lsi/about
>
> The data quality is extremely good. I think it is save to say that it 
> is far better than at least half of all existing landuse data in the 
> US. A distinction is made between normal farmland and fallow (unused) 
> farmland. Cutlines in forests for power-/pipelines are precisely cut 
> out, and so on. Which tags in the original dataset have been changed 
> to which OSM tags is listed on the wiki page: 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Hiausirg/Florida_Landuse_Import#Tagging_Plans
>
> The best way is to get convinced of the quality of the data for 
> yourself: 
> https://www.mediafire.com/file/53cbubxbkikcwi2/FLLanduse_NWF_Part3.osm/file 
> and 
> https://www.mediafire.com/file/8476ovczmljikvu/FLLanduse_NWF_Part7.osm/file 
> are two examples. Simply drag & drop into JOSM.
> 5 days ago I already posted about this project in the #local-florida 
> Slack channel. I also wrote directly to several people who map a lot 
> in Florida. There was almost only positive feedback about the data 
> quality. The only problem is that there are relatively often overlaps 
> of roads and land covers like natural=wood or similar. However, it 
> only happens with minor roads, and I don't think it's a big problem 
> per se.
>
> Conflation will be done largely manually with the JOSM validator. 
> Exact steps are described on the wikipage linked above. Since the 
> state is in most locations completely empty (regarding landuses), this 
> shouldn't take too long. Areas with already good coverage 
> (Jacksonville, Orlando, Tallahassee & Gainesville) won't be touched.
>
> Any questions?
> Greetings
>
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