[Imports] UPLOADING U-WIMP project data to osm

Phil Wyatt phil at wyatt-family.com
Wed Nov 9 05:08:12 UTC 2022


Hi Stellamaris,

 

I continue to have some concerns on the data and tagging, especially when looking at the associated photos.

 

Things such as

 

*	protected_spring with pump=yes but no sign of any pump in the associated image? 

*	https://kc.humanitarianresponse.info/media/original?media_file=wava_stella%2Fattachments%2Fb5a9b6358d8141adabcb9d5c4f0dd560%2F50ab737f-83b3-4441-95fd-f9f5ff4a6270%2F1653126241419.jpg

*	Type=tap, pump=yes, fee=yes but the image looks to be an elevated water tank/tower?

*	https://kc.humanitarianresponse.info/media/original?media_file=wava_stella%2Fattachments%2Fb5a9b6358d8141adabcb9d5c4f0dd560%2F31ea584e-cbb1-4b71-97a6-43308cd1480a%2F1652871763352.jpg

*	I am struggling to understand the pump tagging when many don’t seem to have a pump at all and the usual pump tagging would be one of powered/manual/no

*	https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dwater_well

 

*	Does fee=yes mean that a payment is made for delivery of water to the site (ie piped from somewhere else or via infrastructure from others) or is it that an end user pays for the water when obtained from the tap?

 

Cheers - Phil

 

From: Stellamaris Nakacwa <sn00013 at mix.wvu.edu> 
Sent: Wednesday, 9 November 2022 12:11 PM
To: Mike Thompson <miketho16 at gmail.com>
Cc: Imports OpenStreetMap.org <imports at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [Imports] UPLOADING U-WIMP project data to osm

 

I have put the files into this public repository <https://github.com/StellaWava/U-WIMP-OSM-DATA>  and everyone should be able to access them. 

 

I have already created an import-specific osm username as directed by the imports wiki and I am going to follow what you and  @Andy Townsend have suggested testing my upload. 

Hope to return with a success alert!

 

Thank you all!

 

Best, 

Stellamaris

 

On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 6:18 PM Mike Thompson <miketho16 at gmail.com <mailto:miketho16 at gmail.com> > wrote:

 

 

On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 2:44 PM Stellamaris Nakacwa <sn00013 at mix.wvu.edu <mailto:sn00013 at mix.wvu.edu> > wrote:

 am not sure I can write an import/upload process before successfully uploading the data

The whole point is to write the process instructions *before* you start the import/upload so the OSM community can review and provide feedback.  I don't think these instructions have to be super complicated, and if you learn something during the process you can augment them later with "lessons learned" 

 

I will make sure that in the guide, I emphasize that for the new mappers as more, I am just going to simply edit my .csv and then reconvert it to a geojson. 

Ok, you should share a link to the full .csv, and a link to the final GeoJSON file after you have made the changes.  This should be done well before the import/upload starts so that the community can review.

 

 

I am following the normal JOSM edit guideline <https://toolbox.hotosm.org/pages/data-cleaning-upload-and-quality-assurance/5.1-data-cleaning-with-josm/>  to perform the upload.  [Downlaod data in AOI, merge, validate, upload] 

My data is just water points, nothing extra. So, I do not think I have anything complicated.   

 You probably can either reference those guidelines in your proposal, or cut/paste from it.   I don't think your process will be exactly as shown in those guidelines, so selectively cutting and pasting will probably be best.  For one thing, you have one large file, and in the guidelines they are starting with one file per feature. 

Also,

* I believe your file is quite large, and reviewing all of those points in one sitting in JOSM using the todo list might not be practical.  I would suggest splitting the final file into more manageable chunks.

* Please make it clear in your instructions that if there is an existing well or spring in OSM, that you will preserve it, copy tags from the import data as appropriate, and delete the imported point.  You should not be creating duplicates, nor should you be deleting existing data in favor of the imported data.

* Are you doing this all yourself, or will there be people helping you?  It seems like a lot of data for one person to review/import.  If you are going to have multiple people, how are you going to keep track of who is doing what?  The Denver building import was set up using the tasking manager, such that when a mapper started mapping a task they automatically got both the OSM data and the import data for that location.  This does require some web accessible place to store the import data.

* The import should not be done under your regular OSM account, you should create a separate account for imports (maybe you mentioned this already in your proposal and I missed it).

 

 

Mike

 

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