[Imports] UPLOADING U-WIMP project data to osm

Mike Thompson miketho16 at gmail.com
Wed Nov 9 14:36:33 UTC 2022


Hello Stellamaris,

Thanks again for providing the file.

General Tagging Concerns:
* There is still a source=* tag.  I think Frederick recommended that the
source tag only be put on the changesets
* There is no need to have a county=* tag, people will know what county it
is in by its location.
* dristrict=*, also probably not needed for the same reason, but if it is
included, I think gulu should be capitalized because it is a name (unless
gulu is the type of district and not its name).
* fee=Yes (Y is capitalized), key values should generally be in lower case
* operational_status=Decommissioned (D is capitalized) key values should
generally be in lower case (except for names)
* There are probably more cases of values being capitalized which should
not be, please check
* operator=* This tag should generally name the operator, for example,
"Gulu Water District".  This dataset just indicates the type of operators,
such as "institution", this probably should be in a operator:type=* tag [0]
* It seems like there could be additional, or different, more specific,
tagging used, such as for tanks (man_made=water_tower or
man_made=storage_tank), taps, wells (man_made=water_well), springs, etc.

Other Concerns:
* Based on the photos and the proximity of the points to each other, there
seem to be multiple points representing the same infrastructure in some
cases,
* Some points are located inside buildings, but the photos show that they
are outside.  You should adjust either the building or the water point
during the import.
* The file has 569 features.  Given the possible duplicates, and the points
located inside buildings, both of which should be reviewed, this is
probably too many for a single upload, and should be split into multiple
files.
* It seems that in some cases where there is a tank that presumably feeds a
tap, they have been collected separately. e.g.
https://kc.humanitarianresponse.info/media/original?media_file=wava_stella%2Fattachments%2Fb5a9b6358d8141adabcb9d5c4f0dd560%2F8b086aee-1d4f-4270-9694-b723b0d48cf8%2F1652865747702.jpg,
and
https://kc.humanitarianresponse.info/media/original?media_file=wava_stella%2Fattachments%2Fb5a9b6358d8141adabcb9d5c4f0dd560%2Fe662dbd4-6604-4f4b-8b3f-5b596cd67925%2F1652866359311.jpg

Mike

[0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator:type

On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 10:17 PM Stellamaris Nakacwa <sn00013 at mix.wvu.edu>
wrote:

> Dear Phil,
> Data is going through the cleaning process in JOSM at the moment.
> Pump =yes (for both manual and powered). Pump = no f(or no pump
> application at all).  Some tanks do have pumping systems while others have
> gutters.
>
> fee = yes (people pay to access water) Every water system establish
> involves payment for establishment whether paid by individuals or the
> government.
>
> Stellamaris
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 12:08 AM Phil Wyatt <phil at wyatt-family.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Stellamaris,
>>
>>
>>
>> I continue to have some concerns on the data and tagging, especially when
>> looking at the associated photos.
>>
>>
>>
>> Things such as
>>
>>
>>
>>    - protected_spring with pump=yes but no sign of any pump in the
>>    associated image?
>>       -
>>       https://kc.humanitarianresponse.info/media/original?media_file=wava_stella%2Fattachments%2Fb5a9b6358d8141adabcb9d5c4f0dd560%2F50ab737f-83b3-4441-95fd-f9f5ff4a6270%2F1653126241419.jpg
>>    - Type=tap, pump=yes, fee=yes but the image looks to be an elevated
>>    water tank/tower?
>>       -
>>       https://kc.humanitarianresponse.info/media/original?media_file=wava_stella%2Fattachments%2Fb5a9b6358d8141adabcb9d5c4f0dd560%2F31ea584e-cbb1-4b71-97a6-43308cd1480a%2F1652871763352.jpg
>>    - I am struggling to understand the pump tagging when many don’t seem
>>    to have a pump at all and the usual pump tagging would be one of
>>    powered/manual/no
>>       - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dwater_well
>>
>>
>>
>>    - Does fee=yes mean that a payment is made for delivery of water to
>>    the site (ie piped from somewhere else or via infrastructure from others)
>>    or is it that an end user pays for the water when obtained from the tap?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers - Phil
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Stellamaris Nakacwa <sn00013 at mix.wvu.edu>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 9 November 2022 12:11 PM
>> *To:* Mike Thompson <miketho16 at gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* Imports OpenStreetMap.org <imports at openstreetmap.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Imports] UPLOADING U-WIMP project data to osm
>>
>>
>>
>> I have put the files into this public repository
>> <https://github.com/StellaWava/U-WIMP-OSM-DATA> and everyone should be
>> able to access them.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have already created an import-specific osm username as directed by the
>> imports wiki and I am going to follow what you and  @*Andy Townsend *have
>> suggested testing my upload.
>>
>> Hope to return with a success alert!
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you all!
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Stellamaris
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 6:18 PM Mike Thompson <miketho16 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 2:44 PM Stellamaris Nakacwa <sn00013 at mix.wvu.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  am not sure I can write an import/upload process before successfully
>> uploading the data
>>
>> The whole point is to write the process instructions *before* you start
>> the import/upload so the OSM community can review and provide feedback.  I
>> don't think these instructions have to be super complicated, and if you
>> learn something during the process you can augment them later with "lessons
>> learned"
>>
>>
>>
>> I will make sure that in the guide, I emphasize that for the new mappers
>> as more, I am just going to simply edit my .csv and then reconvert it to a
>> geojson.
>>
>> Ok, you should share a link to the full .csv, and a link to the final
>> GeoJSON file after you have made the changes.  This should be done well
>> before the import/upload starts so that the community can review.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I am following the normal JOSM edit guideline
>> <https://toolbox.hotosm.org/pages/data-cleaning-upload-and-quality-assurance/5.1-data-cleaning-with-josm/>
>> to perform the upload.  [Downlaod data in AOI, merge, validate, upload]
>>
>> My data is just water points, nothing extra. So, I do not think I have
>> anything complicated.
>>
>>  You probably can either reference those guidelines in your proposal, or
>> cut/paste from it.   I don't think your process will be exactly as shown in
>> those guidelines, so selectively cutting and pasting will probably be
>> best.  For one thing, you have one large file, and in the guidelines they
>> are starting with one file per feature.
>>
>> Also,
>>
>> * I believe your file is quite large, and reviewing all of those points
>> in one sitting in JOSM using the todo list might not be practical.  I would
>> suggest splitting the final file into more manageable chunks.
>>
>> * Please make it clear in your instructions that if there is an existing
>> well or spring in OSM, that you will preserve it, copy tags from the import
>> data as appropriate, and delete the imported point.  You should not be
>> creating duplicates, nor should you be deleting existing data in favor of
>> the imported data.
>>
>> * Are you doing this all yourself, or will there be people helping you?
>> It seems like a lot of data for one person to review/import.  If you are
>> going to have multiple people, how are you going to keep track of who is
>> doing what?  The Denver building import was set up using the tasking
>> manager, such that when a mapper started mapping a task they automatically
>> got both the OSM data and the import data for that location.  This does
>> require some web accessible place to store the import data.
>>
>> * The import should not be done under your regular OSM account, you
>> should create a separate account for imports (maybe you mentioned this
>> already in your proposal and I missed it).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
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