[Imports] رد: A lot of nodes imported from GEOnet Names Server (GNS ) were deleted in Yemen, KSA, Egypt Iraq and other countries

[عبدالله عبدالرحمن]

Hello ​‌Andy
Regarding these notes (which the community did not notice and the user did not send to the local community on Telegram or the mailing list), and his caused the loss of many points on the map that had existed for more than ten years and no one had complained about them!.
And if the community had been alerted about any note, it would have been possible to fix what needs to be fixed without the need for the huge and affecting deletion on the map!!!
As for the names, a point must be clarified, which is that we in Arab countries live in vast desert spaces And we name everything in it and it is documented and preserved even in ancient Arabic poetry, And we have many references for verification, and the names may be repeated a lot, for example (and this is a lot) a valley may be called after the type of trees spread in it, so you find the same name repeated 25 times in Saudi Arabia and in different regions, A village may be called by a specific name that has the same name as another village that is far away from it (this is confusing for contributors who are inexperienced with geographical names locally, so he searches for his village and discovers another, then deletes it or comments that it is incorrect!!) This applies to the user you mentioned:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/samams
http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=6980925&commented

Where he removed the peak with the same name of his village, even though the place is correct and the name of the peak is correct, and there is no problem except that the name of the peak is similar to the name of his village!, Also he is very fanatical about his village to the point that he falsifies the population number and changes the classification frequently:
peak:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1237557680/history
the village:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/747667494/history

Another example of a user deleting a place because he wants no other village with the same name as his village to be on the map!:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7650532028/history
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6775946496/history
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/766523203/history

In conclusion, Mr. Hubaishan and I will re-import the GNS points and wil follow https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines and we will review them thoroughly before uploading them in order to avoid any errors.

my regards
Abdullah Abdulrhman
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Abdullah%20Abdulrhman


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From: Andy Townsend <ajt1047 at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2023 4:20 AM
To: imports at openstreetmap.org <imports at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [Imports] رد: A lot of nodes imported from GEOnet Names Server (GNS ) were deleted in Yemen, KSA, Egypt Iraq and other countries

On 25/02/2023 19:24, Saeed Hubaishan wrote:

For nodes in Yemen, should I restore deleted nodes manually or DWG will restore it?



Saeed Hubaishan


Hello Saeed,

Details of the deletion can be seen on changesets such as https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/119556694 .

The DWG received a complaint that this import was of particularly poor quality.  Various people tried to contact the imported, with no luck: http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=11567 .

If you believe that this data (or perhaps some of this data) is of good enough quality to import, you'll need to follow the procedure at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines , which includes making a case for the import (looking at licence, data quality, etc.) including messages to this list.

If you'd like to email the DWG about this ticket please email data at openstreetmap.org<mailto:data at openstreetmap.org> with a subject of "Re: [Ticket#2020112810000282] Yemen".

Best Regards,

Andy Townsend

(from the DWG, although not the DWG person actually dealing with this ticket)

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