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    Hi all,<br>
    <br>
    I got the permission from RTD to import their GIS data into OSM. I'm
    guessing I should post this somewhere on the wiki. Where's the best
    place for that?<br>
    <br>
    --Derek<br>
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            <td>RE: FW: RTD's GIS Data in OpenStreetMap</td>
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            <th valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap">Date: </th>
            <td>Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:09:09 -0600</td>
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            <th valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap">From: </th>
            <td>Jackson, Dan <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Dan.Jackson@rtd-denver.com"><Dan.Jackson@rtd-denver.com></a></td>
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            <th valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap">To: </th>
            <td>'Derek Kniffin' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:derek.kniffin@gmail.com"><derek.kniffin@gmail.com></a></td>
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            <td>Trujillo, Lisa <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Lisa.Trujillo@rtd-denver.com"><Lisa.Trujillo@rtd-denver.com></a>,
              Asphaug, Rolf <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Rolf.Asphaug@rtd-denver.com"><Rolf.Asphaug@rtd-denver.com></a></td>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Derek,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";background:white">"RTD
            has no objections to geodata derived in part from
            RTD's GIS data being incorporated into the OpenStreetMap
            project geodata
            database and released under a free and open license"</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Dan
                Jackson<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Lead
              Architect<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Regional
Transportation
              District<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">1560
Broadway
              Suite 610 Denver, CO 80202 | RTD MC: FAS-61<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">303.299-6132
(O)
              | 303.299.6197 (F) | 303.913.8185 (C)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> Derek
                Kniffin
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:derek.kniffin@gmail.com">mailto:derek.kniffin@gmail.com</a>] <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 30, 2013 10:30 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Jackson, Dan<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: FW: RTD's GIS Data in OpenStreetMap<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p>Hey Dan,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>Thanks for the response. FYI,  I got another response from
          someone
          at RTD saying "Your request was forwarded to the GIS Map
          Coordinator. We
          will do a follow up on it."<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>I asked the people "in the know" what exactly I need from RTD
          before I can import the data to OSM,  and they said that I
          need a
          statement that you are willing to re-license the data in terms
          compatible with
          the Open Database License (ODbL). A good summary of the ODbL
          can be found here:
          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/summary/">http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/summary/</a>.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>Something like t<span
            style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">his
            would
            s</span>uffice:<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";background:white">"RTD
            has no objections to geodata derived in part from
            RTD's GIS data being incorporated into the OpenStreetMap
            project geodata
            database and released under a free and open license"</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>Thanks!<br>
          --Derek<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Derek,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Please
see
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://www.rtd-denver.com/Developer.shtml"
                    target="_blank">http://www.rtd-denver.com/Developer.shtml</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"
                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If
the
                  intention is to provide a free service to the public,
                  RTD’s Transit Data </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"
                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">can
be
                  published on any interactive web map, similar to what
                  others have done.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Google
Maps
                  – Transit, at <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/transit/#mdy"
                    target="_blank">http://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/transit/#mdy</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Bing
Maps
                  – Transit, at <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://www.bing.com/maps/transitdefault.aspx"
                    target="_blank">http://www.bing.com/maps/transitdefault.aspx</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Nokia/HERE

                  Transit, at <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://www.nokia.com/global/apps/app/here-transit/"
                    target="_blank">http://www.nokia.com/global/apps/app/here-transit/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Feel
free
                  to contact me if you have any questions.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Dan Jackson</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Lead
                    Architect</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
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Transportation
                    District</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">1560
                    Broadway Suite
                    610 Denver, CO 80202 | RTD MC: FAS-61</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a
                      moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:303.299-6132"
                      target="_blank">303.299-6132</a> (O) | <a
                      moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:303.299.6197"
                      target="_blank">303.299.6197</a> (F) | <a
                      moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:303.913.8185"
                      target="_blank">303.913.8185</a> (C)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                      Trujillo, Lisa <br>
                      <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:07 PM<br>
                      <b>To:</b> Jackson, Dan<br>
                      <b>Subject:</b> Fwd: RTD's GIS Data in
                      OpenStreetMap</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Dan
can
                  you answer this?<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Lisa
                    Trujillo<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">RTD
Acting
                    Public Relations Manager<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:303-241-1235"
                      target="_blank">303-241-1235</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
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from
                  my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  Begin forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b>From:</b>
                    Derek Kniffin <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:derek.kniffin@gmail.com"
                      target="_blank">derek.kniffin@gmail.com</a>><br>
                    <b>Date:</b> August 26, 2013, 1:23:54 PM MDT<br>
                    <b>To:</b> "Trujillo, Lisa" <<a
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                      target="_blank">Lisa.Trujillo@rtd-denver.com</a>><br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> <b>RTD's GIS Data in OpenStreetMap</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi,<br>
                    <br>
                    I'm pretty sure you're the wrong contact for my
                    inquiry, but you were <br>
                    the closest I see to "tech support" on RTD's contact
                    page, so feel
                    free <br>
                    to redirect me to the right people, if necessary.<br>
                    <br>
                    I'm writing to inquire about the copyright limits of
                    RTD's GIS data. I <br>
                    found a page where I can download the data <br>
                    (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://gis.rtd-denver.com/MapServer/datadownload.aspx"
                      target="_blank">http://gis.rtd-denver.com/MapServer/datadownload.aspx</a>)
                    but it says that <br>
                    the data is copyrighted. What I'd like to do is
                    import that GIS data <br>
                    into a service called OpenStreetMap (OSM for short).
                    It's a free, open <br>
                    data source for world-wide maps, that is used for
                    many other services <br>
                    such as Foursquare, MapQuest, and Craigslist. See <a
                      moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://osm.org"
                      target="_blank">http://osm.org</a> and <br>
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap"
                      target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap</a>
                    for more details.<br>
                    <br>
                    Currently, there are many RTD stops and routes
                    mapped in OSM, but <br>
                    nowhere near all of them. It'd be a great if RTD's
                    source GIS data could <br>
                    be imported. However, the OSM data is licensed under
                    the Open Database <br>
                    License (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ODBL"
                      target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ODBL</a>),
and
                    so I will <br>
                    probably need to get a license for OSM to use RTD
                    data.<br>
                    <br>
                    Just to be clear, I do not represent OSM. I am one
                    individual inquiring <br>
                    about this information. If a larger discussion needs
                    to be had, there <br>
                    are OSM foundations that I can contact to help me
                    with that.<br>
                    <br>
                    Please let me know if it would be possible to get
                    permission to use this <br>
                    data in OSM.<br>
                    <br>
                    Regards,<br>
                    Derek Kniffin<o:p></o:p></p>
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