[josm-dev] JOSM Fail

Shaun McDonald osm at shaunmcdonald.me.uk
Fri Jan 16 11:45:03 GMT 2009


On 16 Jan 2009, at 10:22, Dirk Stöcker wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Jan 2009, Russell Nelson wrote:
>
>> 1) First (and I realize this is probably a Java / Mac thing), we
>> couldn't paste a URL into the URL window.  Fortunately, the
>> drag-n-drop code worked (massive hoorays to whomever added that).
>
> There is a bug report and a fix for that. I was unsure but now I  
> believe I
> should really check it in. This fix moves the text from the URL  
> field into
> the text above.

Um, I don't understand your second sentence there. Do you mean that  
the fix is to set the focus to the textfield rather than the button?  
On Mac OS X it seems that the textfield isn't selected by default,  
however if you click in the text field, and use the keyboard shortcut  
to paste it will work.

>
>
>> 4) She selected a way, and then tried to move the node because the
>> road had been extended.  Of course, she moved the entire way.  (This
>> mnay not be easy to fix).
>
> Good suggestions wellcome. There are perfect valid reasons to move  
> whole
> areas, but probably the common case is that it is unwanted. A solution
> which makes moving everything a bit more complicated without  
> disabling it
> totally would help here I think.

Have a hidden property in JOSM advanced_mode=true, if it is not set,  
then you will be unable to do certain things like move non-circular  
ways more than ~5 nodes. If you do try, you get a potlach like non- 
modal dialog telling you why you can't do the operation.

>
>
>> 5) She went into insert node/way mode with the way still selected, in
>> order to extend it.  It ignored her clicks.  This is a usability
>> fail.  Never ignore a user's input.  If it can't be used in this
>> context, then say why.
>
> You're right. There should be a useful handling of the "there is  
> something
> already selected" case in add mode.

+1

>
>
>
>> 6) "You geeks must really like tedium, because it's wicked boring to
>> have to select/delete, select/delete, select/delete, select/delete  
>> all
>> these inapplicable tags".  I reassured her that we don't like it
>> either, but that didn't serve to explain why she couldn't select a
>> range of tags to delete them.
>
> Has been fixed. New JOSM allows to press Delete multiple times to  
> delete
> multiple entries. Selecting multiple entries is still not supported,  
> as
> only the delete button would react to a multi-selection and this is  
> bad UI
> as well :-)

I would really like to have relation tag/value style editing used for  
the tag editing of nodes and ways, with the addition of the click to  
delete by clicking a x on the right hand side. It would mean that I  
wouldn't have to go through a dialog when editing data. I know it  
could introduce poorer ui for greater useability. Maybe a mix of the 2?

Shaun



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