[josm-dev] .jar file size is too big

[Ulf Lamping]

Maarten Deen schrieb:
> Ulf Lamping wrote:
>> Frederik Ramm schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Ulf Lamping wrote:
>>>> Complicating the build process for the developers and the download 
>>>> step for users is *no* price worth to pay for 1-2MB saved download 
>>>> size IMHO.
>>> It's easy to say that when you are behind a DSL pipe. It all sounds very 
>>> generous and inclusive: "We're not discriminating against anyone, we 
>>> support all languages!" when at the same time you're happily 
>>> discriminating against anyone who happens to have a slower Internet 
>>> connection.
>> I have installed and used JOSM behind a 56K modem line before. The issue 
>> - as Dirk alread noted - was not the JOSM, but the data download.
>>
>> Anyway, my main interest is to get users up and running as *easy* as 
>> possible - not having to select any language but simply start working is 
>> what I want to see.
> 
> Than you make localized versions _and_ one "have-it-all" version. Make the 
> "have-it-all" version available in the directory it is now and have the 
> localized versions "hidden" in a directory with its name so that novice users 
> can't find it.

Will you be the one actually *maintaining* all those versions in the 
long run (aka for the next few years)? Aswering users questions, looking 
after the build if something went wrong ...

> Somehow I get a big sense of "I'm the programmer and I am doing it my way" from 
> this discussion (and have gotten that on previous occasions in other OSM areas). 
> Doesn't the programmer want to cater for the users of his program? Jeez, it 
> appears to be a minor fix from which nobody loses anything and we make such a 
> fuss about it.

Telling other people what they have to do is always the easy part ...

Regards, ULFL